Looking for some aid in selecting a 34mm TALL optic mount for a LPVO.
Also interested in hearing thoughts from those using them. My short time playing with them would indicate an advantage for faster target acquisition and clearing lasers. I understand that some sacrifice may be made when prone but an advantage for standing and fighting.
In the 34mm arena my search and choices seem to be LaRue and Scalarworks at 1.93". Scalarworks LEAP is twice the cost of the LaRue, are you kidding me at $400, and of course for that price out of stock. I own more than a few LaRue mounts and they are all right but wondering if I might be overlooking something? Nice thing about the LaRue is if in the future you wish to change tube size you can just order different sized rings. Looks like with the Scalarworks you are married to the size seeing they are basically one piece.
I recently went to a MI 1.90 mount and really like it. I noticed that I had to dip my head down to get behind the optic and see others doing the same thing. The 1.90 mount is a much more natural head position for me.
Tall scope mounts aren’t necessarily an issue. It’s understanding how it effects your trajectory and hold overs at distance and the barrel to sight relationship up close. I personally do both close and far shooting so I prefer standard mounts.
I have been using the LaRue 1.93 for many years, matter of fact since it came out. It does help on 1x to clear the laser. That can get distracting and obscure the sight picture with a 1.5 mount. I have had no issues at all with shooting with them. I have shoot a great deal with them, up close and at some distance and just like any5 else you have to learn to use it properly. The biggest thing is that I train with them and that is all I use so that is my norm.
The tall mounts are great. They allow you to keep your head up which aids in being able to scan and asses better as in see threats faster, bring the carbine up and get sight picture more consistently. Keeping your head up is also not nearly as fatiguing when you’re doing multiple rehearsals in or on structures.
To those of you running the taller mounts thanks for the info so far. I didnt know about the KAC or MI offerings and will check them out. Sounds like good old Mark LaRue might be getting an order soon. With more and more 34mm tubes and the recent boom in Night Vision I suspect its just a matter of time before we see more. Got to believe Geissele is close seeing they already have 30mm options.
I’ve used the Larue 1.93, their standard 1.5, and even lower rings which were QD. If the majority of your shooting is standing/moving etc, the 1.93 may be of interest, or, if you’re running a longer rail with a laser, etc and don’t want it in your sight picture, the 1.93 may be the ticket.
I never got the logic that they allow you to keep your head up. The optic is brought inline with your eye, not the other way around. For short range build clearing type stuff the stock isn’t that far down vertically in relation to you shoulder pocket. I see its very common for guys to have less of the stock in contact with their shoulder.
If you’re mostly shooting from relatively fixed posistions and first round hits are more important, I’d suggest going lower. I’m 6’-3", and a 1.93 left me floating over the stock. It wasn’t easy, or maybe better stated as natural, to consistently and quickly line up behind the scope. More of a training and familiarity issue.
Lower than 1.5" improves the cheek and stock weld, but trades this off with easy manipulation of the charging handle. With modern ambi charging handles, this isn’t as big of a thing as it was a few years ago.
The shape and size of your face will play a factor in this too. I’d suggest trying before you buy if at all possible.
I think it is a lot less dependant on body and head size than people think. Here is my 5’11" brother shooting my rifle with a Geissele 2.04" mount. After years of using his issued RCO, he had no issues picking up my rifle and using it very effectively.
I ran an ADM high mount (1.9ish) for a while. Worked fine for mostly standing shooting and fast stuff like I was doing with red dots.
However, as I got more into traditional marksmanship stuff, I found the high mount creates unnecessary tension in my neck, especially in the prone. I switched everything to standard 1.5 mounts and haven’t looked back.
Whether or not it’s right for you depends on how you want to employ it. The best advice I’ll give is to think about how you’re actually going to shoot 90% of the time and plan for that instead.
It’s actually sort of interesting to watch how the heights and so on have changed in the last decade or so. Before people might have knocked this me included but I’m really starting to look the idea of a more natural shooting position standing kneeling. I just wonder how one of those higher mounts feel primed out
It’s not impossible, but certainly not ideal. My neck starts to hurt after a few minutes, and cheekweld is minimal. But, my shooting schedule for this particular rifle basically breaks down to;
Meant proned sorry, autocorrect is a bitch. I figured prone with this height mounts would destroy someone’s neck makes sense. Can’t have it all I guess
Also depends on the community as well. I spent time in units that were more out of the box thinkers but my last deployments were with victor units. I remember having to my knowledge one of the first offset Red for mounts on my M4 before it was a thing( the mount was actually made by Aimpoint got it from Freddy blish at the marine expo before deploying) and being around line company guys everyone gave me shit but I’ll tell you what other than it breaking the ease of having that when clearing villages and houses was amazing and now everyone runs them.
A tall guy shooting from a standing position isn’t who I’d think would have a problem with a tall mount. Generally the stock is higher on the shoulder when standing. You can see in your pic how high his cheek bones would are over the stock. While this isn’t an issue at the ranges for what one would generally shoot at something while standing unsupported, it can be more of an issue when prone. When prone the taller mounts aren’t as accommodating as they are standing.
