I’ve felt similar thoughts as you in the past, and I was really hoping and wanting to give the R51 a shot.
You just have to take a step back when the owner of the gun shop spends a lot of effort to dissuade you from purchasing it.
Then again he could have been really good at his job. He did get me to spend more $$$$
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Very true, all the shotgunners I know lean towards Benelli rather than Remington.
I cant really argue with that. My versamax has been problem free but the platform itself hasnt exactly been 100% perfect.
True. I just recently was looking for a pump shotgun for hunting I intentionally avoided Remington due to resent QC issues. I purchased a model Seven predator about two years ago that I found the trigger was crooked and sent it back but I had to pay shipping.:mad: I grew up hunting with a 1100, 870 Wing master and 1187 still have the 1100 and 1187 and regret trading that 870. I will however not be buying anymore Remington’s until things change. Its sad really. I ended up buying a Browning BPS and am happy with it but if not for current state of Remy Is bought a 870.
I’m glad my 700 is a pre Freedom Group model made and bought in 05 or 06. It has the grooved trigger so it shouldn’t be subject to the recall. If I was going to get a new bolt action today it would be a Savage.
I didn’t have good thoughts when I saw and heard about the new pistol. So far I’ve been right. It’s also ugly but then again I actually like the way Glocks look.
Yeah, that’s what you do when a new product proves itself absolute $hit.
It’s seems like almost every new firearm that comes out is plagued with problems.
This says it all my friends. Wtf happend to rem. even the 700 . Pick one up that was made 20yrs ago vs. a new one.
Two words: Freedom Group
The price point is the killer. No way a good sidearm can be produced for what they are advertising.
Pull it off the market for two years, re-contour it, stick on Trijicons to spice things up, bump the price by $150 put into machining and QC, and they would have a cool pistol.
I think it may be too late for that… You only get one chance to make a good impression and Remington blew it, big time…I’ve did a little research on the R51, and so far every review I’ve seen was negative… In one vid the pistol appeared to have fired out of battery, that’s unacceptable. QC appears to be non-existent and it looks like they (Rem) rushed this thing out a fast as they could, with little or no real testing. The word’s out that this is a pistol to avoid, and I suspect that a lot of them will end up sitting on shelves, and I would’nt be surprised if in a few years, they get dropped altogether, and frankly, that might be the best thing that could happen… Something else to consider, if there’s one pistol that’s been produced that can fire out of battery, then there are probably more… How long will it be before one of these things blows up in someone’s hands?
Even compared to one made 5 or 6 years ago, huge difference. I was sorely disappointed with the brand new 16 in. SPS AAC I handled. For crying out loud, the Savage Model 10 I handled right after it had a far smoother action. :fie:
The shield is a 350 dollar pistol…
The cost difference between aluminum and injection molded polymer is insignificant. The THEORETICAL difference in price comes down to machine hours BUT if you’re equipped to do so, you CAN machine metal for pennies…
Look at the price Glock gets. Way too $$$ much for how simple it is.
Not only is it terrible but it seems to be designed in such a way that it is unsafe.
Watched the video and another one it referenced. Obviously the pistol from hell.
I feel much better now, knowing that I am not alone. Some years back I bought a new Ruger P97 which had glowing reports. I had trouble with it from the first magazine onwards. I keep fairly detailed files on all my guns, and essentially tracked everything it did. Under warranty, Ruger sent me part after part after part, to no avail. I sent it in, and upon return it still routinely acted up. A real shame, as I rather liked the gun and shot it well–when it worked. Ruger finally offered to take the gun back, destroy it, and send me a NIB one gratis. I took them up on it, but when it arrived I took the gun, extra mags, extra parts, holster, etc., and promptly put it all on consignment at the LGS.
Although not a Glock fan per se, my current carry piece is a Gen 4 G19 that I shoot decently. Very boring–it just works.
Not that I am selling my J frame any time soon.