Looking to buy 1st AR

AR/M4 AR General Discussion
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I am looking to buy my 1st AR-15 rifle, I have a budget of around 1,000 dollars as my budget with a small reserve for extras.
I am looking for advise on a good rifle within that price range.

I have been looking at the S&W M&P 15 optics ready and the MOE version of the rifle.

I have also been looking at some of Rock River Armory’s selection and Stag Arms, and some of Bushmasters and Armlite’s rifles.

I have a few preferences for the weapon.

  1. 6 position collapsible Stock
  2. Flat top receiver with picatinnay rails
  3. I would prefer a railed gas block with rails but am willing to buy this after and replace front post sight.
  4. Flip up Sights desired but not essential.

Also does anyone know where I could purchase H&K 416 style Diopter sights for less than that 200 dollar Centurion C4 sight

I am looking for weapon that I can use to shoot varmints like coyotes and possible feral pigs while hunting and act as a SHTF weapon.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

PS I am using my tax return to buy a weapon because I feel that Obama would hate me for doing this, especially for a second time.:smiley:

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Oh boy…

This thread is going to go downhill very quickly. However, I will assist you.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Mid-16-AR15-Bravo-Company-s/142.htm

Most of the other members on the board will echo this.

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BCM(blemished lower) and Spikes Tactical for under 1K, save up to 1200, and DD, LMT.

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Start with a BCM Blemished lower - best deal running for a reliable assembled lower.

Otherwise, pick up a PalmettoState bargain stripped lower and fill it with a DanielDefense/MOE lower parts kit.

For the upper - the DanielDefense V5 upper, the BCM Middy units, or Spike’s M4LE.

Any of those will work - then it’s time to think about adding a tactical flashlight (doesn’t need to be anything more than a Surefire G2 on a ring/VTAC light mount), and an optic.

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Read the stickies and find out what each brand brings to the table. For the same price or slightly more than a Bushmaster or Rock River you can get a gun built properly with all the proper testing and quality features. BM and RR are not making guns up to proper specs.

And regarding the railed gas block…why? You want your flip up front sight sitting on a part that gets heated to several hundred degrees when shooting?

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By the railed gas block, I meant that I didn’t want a fixed front sight. I intended to mount an optic and didn’t want a front post sight in the middle of my sight picture.

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It doesn’t interfere with sight picture.

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Sometimes the front sight in front of the scope is annoying, sometimes it isn’t. Depends on the setup and the individual. You have to shoot the combo for yourself to decide.

Insertjjs, listen to those suggesting BCM. When better quality is available for about the same price, the choice is obvious

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I think you should spend some more time reading. What you want is feasible, but I think it will run more than 1000.00.

Also your priorities on it’s intended use are wrong. The first priority should be for a weapon that can be used for self-defense (SHTF) and then hunting.

If you don’t want a fixed FSB then you could get a good upper, have someone cut the FSB so you can install a rail over it and then add your front flip sight.

I highly encourage you to have front and rear back up sights.

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I use a Bushmaster at work as my duty patrol rifle. For about the same price you can get a BCM our a basic Daniel Defense which are better rifles in every way. Trust me on this.

And incase you think I’m just being a fanboy. I dont own either of those two rifles.

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WHATEVER you do. Do NOT get a bushmaster, stag or rock river arms. You can get a BCM or Spikes or maybe a Daniel Defense for the same price! Others with way more experience then me will echo this, not sure about s&w though i know there are better rifles out there.

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Then why do you want to know where to buy HK style diopter sights? Those are fixed.

Spend the rest of your weekend using the search function and just browsing through the entire forum, but esp general discussion. You’ll be 100x wiser and will never ever consider RRA, Shrubmaster, or Armalite ever again.

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Those HK Diopter sights are garbage too. You be much better served with normal sights. My I ask why you want the Diopters and have you ever used then?

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I just helped a buddy purchase his first AR. We found him a DDM4XV for $999 shipped, got it in three days.

http://www.smartgunner.com/Daniel-Defense-M4-Carbine-XV.aspx

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  1. Buy a BCM
  2. Thank everyone here for changing your mind
  3. ???
  4. Profit
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You can hunt with an AR but I wouldn’t call a carbine “ideal.” Just like I wouldn’t call an SPR ideal for what you would normally use a carbine for. Both are functionally similar and able to be used for both purposes, but each is better suited for their intended application.

Don’t expect one rifle to do all things well.

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WoW reference FTW.

I also suggest going for a BCM, LMT, Colt, or DD AR over a S&W or the like - the cost increase is not much, but the returns are overwhelming.

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The OP would be best served by exercising a little patience and spending a good solid week or two researching.

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OP: From my experience the S&W Optics Ready only seems to be compatible with Troy sights. This will add $200 to your initial purchase. There are no savings on the “optics ready” guns from any mfg. It’s just a way for them to make up margins by not offering sights.

If you want a S&W buy one that comes with sights, as it will be way cheaper in the long run. The base model with a Troy rear and regular FSP woud be my choice.

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This thread kinda reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evr_tP9cJWY

The OP will find that BCM and DD have offerings that will fit his requirements from the factory.