Looking for first real 1911

OK have been looking at different 1911’s, I have found 3 I have been looking at.

Colt Rail Gun , 2 tone ( doesn’t have front and rear checkering )

S&W 1911 E-series Tactical

Sig Sauer 1911 Scorpion

I had a Officer size cheap knock off 1911 several years ago, so my 1911 expertise is very limited. Looking to change that.

So I would like get your opinions on these good or bad.

Would like to find info that is not on the websites.

Option A or B would be fine (I own a Colt Rail gun and S&W 1911 PD, both of which are good to go). To quote ZZ Top on Option 3: “Wouldn’t touch it with a 10 foot pole (guitar riff…)”

Really? I always thought Sigs made good guns, but I have never owned one so I can’t say for sure.

Would you care to explain why? Just trying to get as much info as I can.

Sig Sauer used to be a great gun company. Now Sigarms is a great marketing company that makes shitty guns. The devil’s in the details and they forgot about those several years ago. :frowning:

When I think 1911 sig is not th first company that comes to mind…

Newer production colt (LAV approved), Wilson, and Springfield. The colt and Springfield would be great base guns for a build or as is with the proper tuning and the Wilson should be good out of the box.

Probably in the order you list them, if that’s your three choices. Springfield Armory makes some fine 1911’s and the Marine Corps Operator is one of the best pistols I have… You might add them to your list. Colt is pretty predictable in the 1911 arena; OK but nothing special. The SIG 1911’s seem to run well. I’m not terribly fond of them, but they do run. JMO… Ron

My Colt Rail Gun has run perfectly out of the box so far. I’m only at ~522 rounds with it but nothing yet. Get that or a Springfield unless you’re looking to spend quite a bit more. And even if Sig was still producing quality guns, they’re new to the 1911 which was reason enough for me to avoid it (even though it does look sick).

Springfield I think should be considered along with the Colt. A friend as a Colt Rail gun, and it is nice, though very low round count, but its a good starting point to work up to what you want if you have someone who knows what they are doing. I personally have a TRP and it has been a great gun, shoots well and is very accurate and the only issue has been that some magazines feed better(read smoother) then others.

Check out Hilton Yam’s 10-8 Performance blog. He just gave some initial impressions of a new Colt Rail Gun, and some previous posts discuss the S&W E Series. He knows what he’s talking about.

All are good choices. Also, take a look at Springfield, Colt Series 70, and older Series 1 Kimbers.

Colt Rail Gun
SA MC Operator
DX/Neg the Sig.

Springfield, Colt 70 series, and Kimber Series 1 would be my list. They are all 70 Series guns, with no internal differences. 80 Series Colts and Series 2 Kimbers use different internal safeties and may not be compatible with all aftermarket parts, less likely to happen than with 70 Series. The Smith uses an external extractor. To a purist, that would be blasphemy. My understanding is that the E series guns fixed earlier extraction problems.

I currently own five Springfields, so I may be slightly biased:p. A worked over loaded, a TRP Operator, an MC Operator, a Loaded 9mm, and a Champion. The TRP’s are an incredible value. You get a lot for what you’re paying. The others get you in the door, and allow you to have them worked on as funds allow.

From what I’ve heard, the current Colts are great.

My current unit issues Kimbers that came from their custom shop. They are getting long in the tooth, and I can’t say how they were maintained before I got there. They continue to run strong, with only minor issues. One of the recent production line Kimbers I worked on this week was fine, but very rough internally.

If you have access to a good 1911 smith, any of the above woul be a good choice. If not, I can vouch for Springfields excellent customer service.

Please let us know what you end up with, and how it works out.

Also, welcome to the most expensive club you’ll ever join!

I have a Colt Combat Elite,and easily put over 5K through it,fast approaching 6K,it has been a Awesome Pistol !!! I hear good things about the Rail Guns also,I’ll have one some day,LOL !! Springfield would be next choice,get at least a “Loaded” Model,has some nice upgrades at a reasonable price still !!! I like the looks & the ideals behind alot of the Sig 1911s,lots of bang for the buck for sure,I also have a shooting buddy that just bought a Sig 1911,can’t remember the Model,but it has been running pretty good so far,but I know he has less than 1K through it,probably 5/600 or so,if anything comes up,I’ll post it here !!! Let us know how ya make out. :smiley:

I have 2 colts they are very nice. I am in the process of rebuilding one now its an 80 series 1991. I don’t think that there is anything wrong with the 80 series pistols, however. It seams to be costing more be cause of the extra parts, its not a lot more.

The funny thing is I have the 2 pistols the other is a Sistemia made on colt tooling in Argentina. That pistol only cost me 250$ and it is superior in fit and finish to pistol made some 50 years later.

I have been looking at the MC Operator and the TRP, but what are some of the difference between them, spec chart seems fairly similar.
The TRP has a checked front strap and the MC has a wrap around. Sights are little different.

That is what I am afraid of.:sarcastic:

For some reason never really considered Springfield, but after several recommendations I took a look at them, I am liking them so far, need to get to a LGS so I can handle them.

The TRP and the MC Operator have really caught my attention so far.

The MC Operator is a conventional bushing barrel, fixed sights, and mine has a GI guide rod setup. The TRP Operator I have is a full length rail, bull barrel, and adjustable night sights.

I owned my MC Operator before I picked up the TRP Operator. My MC Operator only need minor tweaks that were mostly personal preference. I ditched the Pachmeyer grips for VZ 320’s. I also added a Smith and Alexander mag well.

I didn’t think the TRP would be worth the extra cash. Boy was I surprised. The TRP is much tighter from the factory. It will shoot circles around my MC Operator. The extracor was already tuned, the machine checkering looks great and provides plenty of bite. I’ve run it in several classes, including Tigerswan and TAPS, without any issues. The only problem I found was that the baseplates on Mecgar magazines hit the TRP mag well. Not a big issue, since I run Tripp Cobra mags for work.

I’ll try to get pics up in the 1911 photo thread later.

I ended up with a black over black Colt Rail Gun. The TRP seemed a bit heavy for my taste and for the extra cash, I can do some custom work. The checkering was a bit harsh as well for what I wanted. I have been impressed with the build quality and did not notice any sharpness like people complain about.

Same here. I think it’s an overblown nitpick. I use mine in competition and have yet to have any issues with these so-called sharp edges.

Right now, I sleep with a Sig Scorpion. I am a huge Sig fanboy. I’ve been through 4 Sigs, and never had a problem with them. Only reason I traded them out was because that’s what I do. I like to trade guns. I recently got a Sig P226R Navy and now the Sig 1911 Scorpion.

Tomorrow, I will test fire my Scorpion. I’ve had no problems with Sig.

As far as 1911, I have in my wish list: Kimber Desert Warrior and Springfield Armory MC Operator.