I have a Surefire E1B now that I like for the most part. However I’d like something less expensive, and ideally something that carried better bezel-up (yes I know the E1B pocket clip is allegedly bi-directional).
I can’t keep up with all these alternate LED companies and the products they offer, so hoping someone that keeps up with these things better than me can help steer me in the right direction here.
Streamlight debuted these at shot, supposed to be out in April. I can’t remember if the clip work for you and I can’t find a pic that shows it well enough to tell.
I agree on the Quark 123 Tactical. I have 3 and carry at least one daily and they are both brighter and more ‘tactical’ in that you don’t get low unless you twist the front head. My E1B has been relegated to exactly that, backup in my bag to the Quarks and a RaClicky.
Rob s, on the 120 & 85 series Novatac lights you can directly program the light levels from the 20+ choices. If you buy a P series light, it comes preset in program mode. If you buy a T or E series you have to do the 250-click hack to access the programming.
My 85T came ‘hacked’, but I decided since it was a new interface to learn, I did the factory reset to the 85T program and have used that ever since. (on is 85lumens, double click is about 20 lumens IIRC, and double click again is 0.3 lumens. At any time, once on, if you push & hold you get full power strobe.
The Quark 123 Tactical is thinner than the Novatac and has simpler programming in that you can set any 2 modes to come on when the head is loose or tight. I use moonlight and max/turbo, but you can choose between various other levels as well as strobe. So basically you ALWAYS get the same mode when the head is tight/loose and no combination of clicks is going to get you anywhere weird.
That said, my daily carry when carrying IWB instead of just ankle is the RaClicky which is very similar to the Novatac and has more “smart” clicky features that generally work, but sometimes can be confusing although the easy yet somewhat tactical mode switching capabilities and construction of the light makes up for it.
I have a EDC Basic 60 made before Novatac took over. I am a surefire nut but thsi is actually my all time favorite carry light. I’ll get one made by NOVATAC one of these days as a backup I guess
This has been a great thread. Thanks to rob_s for starting it and for the responses. I’ve been in the same position as you, rob. I have an E1B and really like it except for the crenelated bezel and pocket clip, which have torn up some pockets. I just ordered a Quark 123 R5 w/o a pocket clip.
The other problem I’m finding is that many of these lights appear designed to appeal to the light-nerds, not actual users. I do not need SOS, strobe, 756 different lighting levels, two types of controls, a twisting head, programming that requires the assistance of NASA, and enough lumens to melt paint.
Other than the clip and price, I am beginning to appreciate the simplicity of the Surefire. I’d like the switch to operate a little differently (light pressure, light light; high pressure, bright light) but Christ some of these other models are confusing as all get-out with the programming, 5 different settings, etc. I feel like if I tap out “shave and a haircut” on the button they’ll start projecting Loony Tunes Cartoons on the wall with Bugs & the whole cast!