I started looking at the 16" upper with the URX III on aim surplus earlier yesterday and decided to possibly use that as the basis of my next AR project; however, I’m more interested with finding an upper that has a 14.5" middy barrel with a pinned AAC brakeout. I’m going to be buying an AAC M4-2000 for my SBR before the end of this year and would like to have another rifle that will be able to use that can.
What I don’t want to do is buy a 16" upper (that’s all I’ve seen available) and then have to send it off to have someone else to do all the work. MSTN and Gun Gallery were my first thoughts at having this put together but I haven’t emailed them yet to see if it was readily available. I typically do my own work on my ARs but I don’t want to drop $250 for the KAC barrel nut tool.
You’re going to have a tough, if not impossible, time finding that combination of parts in a 14.5" upper. Personally, I would avoid the pinned FH and go with a 16" upper of your choice with the URX and add whatever mount you like. Otherwise, you will have to find someone selling 14.5" uppers with a URX and an unpinned muzzle device, then send it out to someone like ADCO for pinning.
No he is not…wow I cannot believe the timing of your post Leonidas;)
Stay tuned my friend, I don’t quite want to jump the gun this very minute, however if your looking for a super Afghan specimen that features exactly what you requested already above, and then some by quite a bit, than your gonna like whats brewing at this very moment.
It will also be built by easily one of the most respected AR builders and outfits in the game…this Afghan upper will be the one for the true connoisseurs among us.
I think I should have read your thread title better, as there is a huge difference in my book b/t an Afghan w/ URX III, and a 14.5" middy w/ URX III. Seeing as there was no mention of the word Afghan now that I reread your original post, I’m not so sure your looking for whats brewing on my end.
The project I’m referring to is a supremely accurate 14.5" match SS barreled Afghan by definition that will incorporate the URXIII along with some other things in an attempt to make this upper/rifle incredibly LW as a secondary goal. Ultimately it’s built around it’s super accurate and very hard to come by barrel. This upper/rifle is being designed to compete strongly with at least the true Recce rifle concept, if not both the Recce and SPR/MK 12 rifle concepts not just in terms of pinpoint accuracy but long distance shooting as well. So it will essentially be a NSWC-Crane type rifle, just the lightest and most portable member of that family:cool:
Obviously this one will be pricey, highly customized, and won’t exactly fall into the category of another 14.5" mid length blaster like what has become quite popular these days.
Neil at Gun Gallery can get that done for you quickly. I just had him build me a 14.5" unpinned BCM govt mid length with a Daniel Defense RIS II. I’ll be switching the muzzle device to a Surefire flash hider when my Surefire 212 is approved.
Have you owned a KAC URX yet, either II or III? I only ask because I had two complete SR15’s with the URX II’s and I broke two front sights, one broke completely off, and though nice, the rails themselves aren’t as sturdy as I would like and have a bit of flex. Tim at KAC is a great guy and got me fixed up right away, it figured I’d mention it.
Also, the fact that the URX requires a proprietary wrench to install and remove gets under my skin a bit. I sold all of my KAC gear (two SR15’s, two Triple Taps, URX II special run lightweight, etc) recently besides the rear sights and the front sight on my mk18. They are one of the better companies out there, but for me, I need something that’s not proprietary.
When I had Neil build my upper, he started it on a Monday and it shipped out Wednesday, if I remember correctly. It only took 2 or 3 days. The whole reason I went with a new upper was because of the URX II only remaining sr15. I noticed the barrel was now canted and it turns out it was very slightly loose. Well, there was nothing I could do to tighten it since I didn’t have the wrench. I thought about borrowing one from a member, but figured I’d be better off replacing the rail because if it takes another hit and has issues again, I’ll have to send it off again.
The URX III is a very nice rail though, I just don’t like how they heat up. What made you decide on the AAC can over the Surefire, out of curiosity? Also, any particular reason you want to use a brake n your 14.5" instead of a flash hider? I removed my Triple Taps from my ARs and my BattleComps from both of my SCARs (Light and Heavy) and now much prefer flash hiders… But this is clearly personal preference based on my experience, so everyone is obviously different.
Good luck with the build. Like I and others have said, I strongly recommend Neil.
Have you owned a KAC URX yet, either II or III? I only ask because I had two complete SR15’s with the URX II’s and I broke two front sights, one broke completely off, and though nice, the rails themselves aren’t as sturdy as I would like and have a bit of flex. Tim at KAC is a great guy and got me fixed up right away, it figured I’d mention it.
To be honest I’m torn right now between a RIS II and a URX III. I’ve handled both before and liked both, but was drawn to the URX III because of its lack of rails. I am; however, weighing the thoughts of using a RIS II and kitting out the upper with full size KAC sights from King Optic.
The URX III is a very nice rail though, I just don’t like how they heat up. What made you decide on the AAC can over the Surefire, out of curiosity? Also, any particular reason you want to use a brake n your 14.5" instead of a flash hider? I removed my Triple Taps from my ARs and my BattleComps from both of my SCARs (Light and Heavy) and now much prefer flash hiders… But this is clearly personal preference based on my experience, so everyone is obviously different.
Good luck with the build. Like I and others have said, I strongly recommend Neil.
I’ve shot an AAC equipped rifle before, and I’ve never shot one with a Surefire can. I appreciate the all-inconel construction of the M4-2000 and Mini-4. Ultimately I’m looking to equip my SBR with an M4-2000 (on order right now) and my 14.5 with a Mini-4. And the price range of those two suppressors is within reason for me. I haven’t discovered any discernible advantage that the Surefire offers for $300.00 more over the AAC.
I’m going to use a brake on both rifles to help extend the life of the suppressor because I’ve read that it can extend the life of the blast baffle and ultimately the life of the suppressor. I’m not going to test that theory because with an investment like a suppressor (let alone two) I’d rather buy once and cry once.
I emailed Gun Gallery last night. I’ll update when I get a return email.
To clarify my earlier post, you will have a difficult time finding exactly what you’re looking for in an off the shelf offering. The recommendations pointing you to Neil are a great solution. He should be able to hook you up with a BCM upper built to your exact specs.
Neil got back with me yesterday (on a Sunday!!!) and gave me a good quote on the upper I wanted. The only thing that would need to be outsourced was the pin/weld of the muzzle device which would go to Adco. Neil reverberated what a couple people have said here about the RIS II, and I’m still considering it over the URX III. But as of right now it looks like I’ll be putting in an order to gun gallery for my original specs around mid-november.
