I may end up doing my post-doctoral work in California. This could take anywhere from 2-4 years. Obviously, EBRs can’t go, but I like my guns and want to keep them. Is there such a thing as long term storage units or something for firearms? I do have family that I could leave them with but they’re all out of state. Plus, a professional storage place should be more secure and have insurance. Anyone know?
You do have some options bring the EBR’s to California. Some are banned by name, but if they are not on the list you just need to install a bullet button. Your mags need to be dissembled. You can only use 10 round mags with a bullet button.
The bullet buttons are easily reversible.
What make are the rifles?
Read this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=56818
I took my AR15s with me when I had to work in Cali for a year. No problems.
One is an LMT standard 16" carbine. The other two are AKs. One is a Yugo M70 underfolder and the other an Arsenal SGL 21.
Didn’t realize I could bring them.
I haven’t looked at our roster lately so I’m not clear on the AK’s but I know your LMT is fine. Just add a bullet button (+/- $35 part) and insert a 10 round mag. Once you have the button and mag, you’re rifle can have all the features you want. Just need a 16" barrel length, no suppressors, etc. That bullet button, when you’re out of state or return to your home state, easily comes out and you’re back to standard configuration with no other changes to your carbine. They have similiar devices for the AK as well, but you’ll need to confirm if your particular AK model is OK first.
You can keep all your mags with you, but you’ll need to break them down into components. No mags over 10 rounds unless you were a resident and owned them prior to 2000, but the components themselves are not a problem.
Follow the link in jakjakman’s post and the guys in CalGuns can give you more information and can answer the questions on your AK’s.
Nice man, thank you.
This is exactly what I was going to tell you also. Check the list to see if by NAME your lower reciever is of a brand that is actually listed on the NO NO list for Calif. If it’s not listed by name then all you have to do is install a bullet button (it’s $25 and easily changed back in about 1 minute) and go with 10 round magazines while in CA.
If you do have one of the listed/Banned name brands then just get a lower reciever from LMT, BCM, Novesky, etc and put that together for the time you’re behind enemy lines.
Leave your “over 10 round” mags with your out of state relatives is your best bet. Or just box them up and shove them in the attic while you’re living in CA.
For example Bushmaster and Colt and I believe Armalite are some of the listed Names that are banned. But the trick is that only the Lower Reciever with that name is banned. Any other parts by those companies are fine, so there are ways around their silly laws.
For example if you have a BCM AR15 with bullet button and 10 rd mags you are exempt from all the restrictions that the banned/registered guns are limited by because technically your BCM is not an “assault rifle” because it doesn’t have a detachable magazine, therefore eliminating it from all those restrictions the registered guns are subject to. You can transport it in your car/truck as long as it’s not loaded, keep it in your home, go to the range or out to the desert, etc and shoot.
That’s importation and still a felony.
Take them apart, box 'em up, and then put them in the attic. Disassembled, they’re just parts. 
Yeah, but that’s not the other poster said it.
Just keep in mind that while Calguns can be a good resourse, the amount of jackassery and mall ninjas equals roughly double the amount on arfcom.
Just a heads up.
it’d be great if people would get together for mass demonstrations of civil disobedience. 10,000 people with “illegal” weapons would be hard to arrest and prosecute.
problem is, our reactive government would probably declare it an uprising and drop napalm on the rally.
I’m in California.
There’s already a lot of good info in this thread, and CalGuns is a good source regarding CA laws and the ways around them.
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The RaddLock is a much better device than the Bullet Button. I have both.
“Or just box them up and shove them in the attic while you’re living in CA.”
That’s importation and still a felony.
Kind of. It’s a “wobbler,” and only for three years.
It IS legal to possess hi-cap magazines, it’s just illegal to import, manufacture, or sell them, and the statue of limitations is three years.
So, if you have hi-cap mags date-stamped more than three years ago, then it would be basically impossible for anyone to prove that the illegal importation/purchase happened in the last three years.
I’m not advocating breaking the law, but everyone should understand that CA’s wackiest gun laws are virtually unenforceable.
Why don’t you start? It might not be “mass” disobedience, but what we really need here is somebody to get himself arrested as a “test case” and then appeal so that we can change the law.
In the meantime, this kind of smart-ass comment doesn’t help, so quit trolling…
Bimmer
you attributed a quote to me i didn’t make, above… and as far as the troll comment- WTF? blow me.
You can’t (at least not legally).
The underfolder is almost certainly too short (I think long guns must 30" minimum). You’ll need a fixed stock.
Really, just look at the flow chart on CalGuns regarding “assault weapons.”
And don’t forget to register your handguns (I’m not kidding).
Bimmer
My mistake on the quote attribution. I got sloppy cutting and pasting the quote offsets. I’ve now fixed it. My apologies.
Your post didn’t contribute to the discussion at all.
Legally owning guns here in California is enough of a PITA without smart ass out-of-staters high-jacking every serious discussion with some absurd suggestion about how we should deal with our government.
That’s trolling, and I called you on it.
Asking me to blow you doesn’t change it, it just makes you an especially crude troll.
Bimmer
Even if your storage facility advertised climate and humidity control, they are not controlled.
If you are unsure of the legality, the safest thing to do, IMO, is leave them with a trustworthy friend in a free state…
Yeah, I’m sure your guns will be safe with Ridge Runner, just send them to him…
Seriously, thousands of Californians have ARs and AKs. Just follow the silly rules and stay out of trouble.
Bimmer
This is called “intent to assemble an illegal weapon” same crime as an illegal weapon…