Local Post Office claims the USPS does not ship firearms...

No matter what proof I provide saying that firearms can be shipped USPS, this particular post office refuses to accept firearms for shipment under any circumstances. I have tried to provide documents stating that it is legal but they won’t have it. They say their regs say it’s illegal, but will not show me their reference.

How can I hold this Post Office accountable? The supervisor denying shipment needs to be fired. Any suggestions?

You do know you can’t ship whole guns just uppers and parts right?

FFLs can ship firearms to FFLs or the factory through the USPS. Or LEOs can ship to a commerical firearms interprise or other department using an official agency letterhead authorization.

Why are you telling them it’s a firearm? Why are they asking you?

I’m pretty sure that the only restriction USPS on shipping firearms is that non-licensees cannot ship handguns. Long guns are fine.

Just curious, is there any penalty for lying to a PO employee? They only ask me if my package contains anything liquid, fragile…etc. If they asked me if it contained a gun, my first impulse would be to say no.

Wrong.

Postal regulations do allow the Post Office to inspect the contents of a package. They did.

However, a non-FFL holding individual MAY ship a long gun to an FFL. That is the issue. They don’t think you can. In fact, they are so backwards that they told me I was getting confused with ammunition. They said ammunition can be mailed USPS but rifles can not. Ass backwards.

Individuals can ship long guns and shotguns to FFL’s as well. Only handguns require FFL to FFL via USPS.

Well I learned something new. I was told by my PO that you could only ship uppers, parts, etc. and no long guns, pistols, AR lowers, etc. I guess they are bass ackwards too.

I knew about the exceptions for FFLs, LEO, mil but you didn’t state that originally.

http://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/2011/pb22321/html/updt_001.htm

and particularly

12.3 Legal Opinions on Mailing Firearms

Postmasters are not authorized to give opinions on the legality of any shipment of firearms. Further advice and ATF contact information is available at http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/

I would show them that and tell them to butt the hell out.

Just made a copy of USPS regs. Suggest anyone shipping do same.

I did this also and even showed it to them. They said “well that’s not what ours say.” They would not provide evidence of that statement when asked.

Try a different office. Surely they all can’t be that fucked up.

I did. Just got it shipped out about an hour ago with no problems. Had to drive 20 minutes instead of 3.

The point is that the dirtbag in charge of that particular post office is likely motivated by political ideologies. His tone and attitude wreak of anti-gun radicalism.

Instead of doing his job and following regulations, he just arbitrarily tells people that the USPS doesn’t ship firearms period.

So, again, what’s the best way to go about making sure he’s unemployed by Christmas? I don’t think emailing the USPS with a complaint will do it. There’s got to be a better way.

There has to be a way to go above his head. Demand his boss’s name/number. I’ve had to file complaints at my PO for lost/returned/wrong box number mail consistently on the carrier about 3-4 times over the past few months. I’m at the step to go over the person in charge of the PO that delivers my mail.

Go here and file a complaint:
http://faq.usps.com/eCustomer/iq/usps/request.do?create=kb:USPSFAQ&search=complaint&searchProperties=type:natural&naturalAdvance=false&varset(source)=sourceType:search#

I would do it by phone and speak to a live person and not stop asking for their superior until I got a satisfactory answer. Keep following up. I’m sure you’ll have to be persistent it is a government run, bureaucratic, red tape fustercluck :slight_smile:

I’ve been complaining for months and the dumbass truck driver is still screwing our mail up.

Get back in line! They’re union, why would they give a fuck? American Postal Workers Union (APWU).

http://webpmt.usps.gov/

Use that link, and find a way to contact that person.

Obviously the one with the most recent chronological date…:jester:

When you get sick of the local people, try writing to this guy:

Mr. Patrick R. Donahoe
Postmaster General and Chief Executive Officer
U.S. Postal Service
475 L’Enfant Plaza, SW
Washington, DC 20260-0010

I did and the problem was solved. It wasn’t about firearms, but the problem did get solved.

Nah, I’d just E-Mail him… :smiley:

Do you know you do not know what you are talking about?

This is correct. I would contact your local postmaster for assistance. If that doesn’t work a pro 2nd amendment congressman office if you have one.

Interesting.

Care to say what pretext they used to justify inspection?

Just a long, gun-looking box? Name of destination?