Im planning on buying the LMT 16in upper. But i was wondering how the BCM is compared to that. Anyone with experiance?
I would go BCM. I got some really good pricing on LMT so I went with them and one of my uppers has some funny tool chatter marks or something on both sides underneath the rail. It gives the upper an almost serrated surface where it should be smooth. Doesn’t really matter much but tears my patches apart when I’m cleaning off the surface of the upper and leaves bits of fabric stuck to the marks.
Either company makes good stuff, you’ll just pay more for the LMT name.
Both are high quality. Since the BCM is cheaper than the LMT, I would say that it is the better value.
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add to that the BCM will be parked under the FSB,use proper pins to secure the FSB,and have better QC on every single upper .:rolleyes:
Why not contact LM&T and give them a chance to fix your machining problem.:rolleyes: I for one would like to know just how they would respond.
Because it doesn’t matter to me. It doesn’t effect the function of the gun in any way except for cosmetics. it’s like the fact that it doesn’t form a perfect airtight union with my Mega lower, it doesn’t matter to the overall function of the gun.
Some people care about cosmetics so I hedge my bets and tell them to go with BCM. Personally, I like all the LMT complete uppers I’ve got or handled perfect finish or not. Especially considering the price I paid for mine.
I don’t doubt LMT would take real good care of me, maybe I’d send it in if all the uppers I’ve seen had the same issue but they don’t. No biggie.
Well if you would use a Tipton Bore Guide that would correct any snagging patch problems.
Sorry, to clarify. the machine “chatter” or tool marks are on the outer portion of the upper receiver, just under the flat top rail, on both sides. It looks like the tool was a little worn when they milled the channel. It feels sorta like shark skin in that area so when I wipe the upper in one direction, the paper towels or patches get torn up. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the barrel.
To be clear, if I hadn’t gotten a great price on the LMT uppers, I’d be in line for a BCM. I see them as equal in terms of overall quality, with a tip of the hat to BCM for being so thorough and having stellar CS.
So you made me go to the safe and check my LMT,mine is smooth . 
Well everything I have bought from The Bravo Company has been first rate quality. So I would also have no problem buying their branded uppers.
BCM = better and cheaper IMHO, but there’s also nothing wrong with LMT. YMMV.
My opinion as well.
The performance of the BCM at it’s price-point is exceptional.
For a little perspective- I bought a BCM middie when supply was zero and demand was high. I payed far more than you will have to and I am still a happy camper. I have LMTs that are great, but I only bought them because Colt and BCM were unobtainable at the time of purchase and the LMT was on the shelf.
I was trying to decide between an LMT or BCM upper to go on my LMT lower. I have a RRA chrome lined Entry Tac upper on it now, but after reading so much here, I decided that I needed to upgrade to something I knew was GTG. Bear in mind, I have had no trouble at all with the RRA upper. I plan on using this weapon as a back-up to the Colt the state Highway Patrol issues, as well as home defence /SHTF weapon. So with that in mind, I ordered a BCM 16" M4 from Grant. After reading the realities of workmanship and materials contained in the info here on this site, I felt the BCM was the best deal for the money.
What am I missing here? I bought a 16 inch LMT upper with handguards (minus the BCG and charging handle) for $450 delivered to my front door. Isn’t that what BCM sells their uppers for (minus handguards, BCG and charging handle), even before shipping? Or does BCM make dealers follow MAP?
Has the RRA upper given you problems? Has it had failures? Doe it not shoot good groups?
You posted{no trouble at all} so why spend the money to replace good working upper? Is it just to say I have a LM&T or BCM upper?
I really enjoy this site ~ much more than TOS ~ and I dont want to crack heads with anyone or get sideways either. There is some real good info here. That being said , to answer your question , I bought the BCM because I believe the BCM to be a better product… and what if I bought one just because I can? Is it a bad idea to have two uppers? I’m thinking I would like to build another weapon
I don’t really see harm in having more of a good thing. Enjoy your new rifle.
This thread is yet another great example of why I enjoy visiting this sight daily.
In order to complete my first ‘adult’ AR15, I was planning to purchase (from G&R), an LMT upper complete with all LMT components. However, upon further reading, and what I’m sure is way overanalyzing this purchase, am now leaning toward either a:
- BCM 16" Mid Length Upper complete with all BCM components (G&R)
- Noveske N4 Light Recce basic 16" upper (Noveske)
- Custom upper with Vltor MUR-1A, Noveske 16" Light Recce barrel, BCM or LMT BCG, CH, etc. (G&R)
The finishing touches will be:
- Troy rear sight
- DD Omega
- Aimpoint
- Surefire Scout
- Larue FUG
- Rail covers - undecided
Decisions, decisions…
~tp
No not a bad idea I bought my S&WM&P15 a year ago and it’s been a no problem great shooting AR.
I bought and extra BMC bolt and a standard LM&T bolt&carrier. Then last Month my local dealer got in a LM&T Defender 2000 with a SOPMOD buttstock and their up graded hand grip. They let me take a look at it and I went home and fetched my Kimber TAC II .45 and we did a trade in on the LM&T.
So having a lot of extra stuff is good. But I kept my S&W and trust it with my life as I now also trust my LM&T.
I’m also in the market for a new AR and keep hearing all this talk about BCM. I know LMT, Colt, etc. but who is Bravo Company in relation to these others?
I’m also wanting a rail and keep hearing about the DD Omega. On Grants site there are several options for rails on the BCM uppers. Any particular you guys recommend for it? http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=UPR-BCM&reference=/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3D%26searchstart%3D0%26template%3DPDGCommTemplates/FullNav/SearchResult.html%26category%3DBCOM