Looking for something a lot lighter than my Primary Arms 1-6x Gen 2 scope. It made my rifle pretty darn top heavy.
I would prefer a lit scope but my priorities are:
- Rugged/Won’t lose zero
- Weight & Size
- Generous Eye Relief and Eye Box
- Red dot
Aimpoint.
Sorry, I meant fixed magnification that’s 3-4x and also meets those criteria.
Sounds like a Trijicon TA33 mini ACOG would fit the bill quite nicely.
If you can make BAC (Bindon Aiming Concept) work for you, the TA33 is pretty fast up close and the 3x definitely helps at a distance. And they don’t come much lighter.
I am running a Leupold VXR Patrol on an AP ultralight mount. Total weight 14 3/4 OZ and its 1X4. For comparison an AimPoint PRO on Bobro QD weighs 12 OZ.
I vote for trijicon as well
I think I might give that Leopold a try. It seems like it’s half the price but you get 4x with the option for 1.5x and still maintain the same weight. Eye relief I guess would probably be a lot better on the Trijicon.
TA33 for the reasons cited.
just bough a used TA-33 while eye relief is not as generous as a variable on lowest setting it is a lot better than the first gen ACOG’s that you could dust of the lens with your eyelashes you had to be so close . nice that I don’t need batteries and with a AD b2 mount it weighs 9.5 ounces
For the value I like the primary arms prismatic fixed 3x or 4x scopes. I have some astigmatism and the red dot always look slightly smeared. The prismatic fixed scope has the reticle etched in glass and is then illuminated. A new 1x is the Burris AR1x (I think that’s the right model) new from shot show 2015.
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I just moved a Leupold vx-3 from my m1a to ar. It is 1.5-5 and I like the feel of it. Eye box at higher mag seems a little picky but need to shoot still. Reticle is illuminated dot.
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+1 for this.
If you want a rugged, compact/light weight, fixed power optic IMO there is nothing better than an ACOG.
I keep seeing this a lot. Like many things, I guess there’s a reason they are priced where they are.
I am looking to lighten up my Colt LE6920 also as it now wears a Burris 1.5-6x40 which is a bit heavy with mount and all. Nice scope, but I want to switch off with something lighter to make the rifle a bit handier. I am thinking a fixed 4x scope with good eye relief. I don’t want to spend ACOG prices, maybe stay under $350. This rifle is a range gun, and I may run some courses with it.
My other option is to just throw an Aimpoint Pro on it, but I LIKE have some magnification.
Pilot,
If you want a fixed 4x or 3x prism scope check out primary arms. They are based in Pearland, TX and for the $$$ these scopes can’t be beat. Some will argue that they are not German or Japanese glass. We all know where these products are made. The key is quality control. I have their scope on my AR chambered in the AK round with a reticle made specifically with that round. The ACSS reticle has held zero and I’ve shot out to 200 yds with amazing accuracy.
No experience with the PA prism scopes, but if budget minded it might be worth taking a look.
I have owned/been issued many ACOGs (TA-01, 11, 31, 33, 50). The 33 and 50 are the lightest but I prefer the 11 out of all of them. In my experience it has the best eye relief and light transmission.
Another budget option might be to try a Vortex Spark with the screw on doubler. Certainly not ideal for some uses, but might suffice given the criteria.
Just something to consider, while new ACOGs can run north of $900 into the $1200 range and some higher than that. You can find used one for in th e$700 range from time to time, and even at times as low as $600. Hell has a LGS have one for $450. Had been painted, and looked like the guy range his truck over it a few times, but the glass was clear and unmarred. Granted the $450 was more of an aberration than normal, but the point being you may not be all that far in the long run. With that said, PA dose get a lot of good words on their optics so it could be a viable option on the cheap. Lastly, if you do go with the PRO, sometimes 3x Aimpoint and Eotech magnifiers pop up in the $300 range, sometimes $250-275. If you are patient you might be able to grab one of them and get the best of both worlds as it were. I know I have missed out on a few magnifiers by only short periods of time in just the past couple months.