I have an RRA 16 in CAR upper, (yes I know)…It’s plain as can be, standard handgurds. I do not need a rail system, nor do I plan on installing one. I want to buy a mount for a flashlight, but I’m not sure what. I thought the Elzetta light mount was pretty slick, but I have a side sling swivel that mounts under the front sight tower. Are there any other ways of mounting a light that doesn’t require drilling & modifying the standard handgurds to accept a rail? I saw these aluminum rails that you place on the top portion of the sight tower, but I’m not sure if that would interfere with my sight picture through my EOTech. Any suggestions guys? I’m just a boring civvie, no leo/military backround. Not going into battle, yet I do want a decent light mount for HD. Any comments are appreciated.
Probably better to run a search in the Tactical Lights forum. This is the Optics forum.
there is a mount that attaches to your Bayonet lug here is one that will works with the side sling
http://www.botachtactical.com/kzm4balugmo.html
Didn’t realise, saw optics and mounts & was a bit too hasty.
Beautiful thanks!
A Surefire 6P or Streamlight Scorpion hose clamped to your handguards.
(the rubberized body of the Streamlight grips best.)
Mount the light at “5 o’clock” for a lefty like me or "7 o’clock for righties, and close enough to mag well that you can hold the well with your off hand and actuate the light with your thumb.
I’m sorry hose clamped? Please explain
These two would be my suggestion for your setup. It’ll give you a little more room on that cramped carbine handguard.
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Midwest-Industries-MCTAR-01-p/mctar-01.htm
plus
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Vltor-G-Series-Scout-Mount-p/vltor%20sm-g.htm
or
Before the rails and mounts that we have today, this is how lights were attached to handguards. Either this or duct tape.
Thank you. Yeah I’m having a hard time deciding what I want to do here. I like the bayonet lug mount as well, but this is what I originally was looking at. My only concern is that it may interfere with my FOV through the EOTech. Anybody have one of these with an EOTech mounted? I do have a lower 1/3 co-witness so maybe its a non issue.
Oh ok. Laugh out loud. I had tried duct taping it to the handguard, but it just looked ghetto. I currently have a piece of bicycle innertube with a cheapy flashlight crammed between it and the barrel. It actually functions ok, but its only temporary.
Two shiny hose clamps from Auto Zone.
Run both around the handguards and flashlight, tightening it against the guard at say a 7 o’clock position
The rubberized body of a Streamlight is gripped far better by the hose clamps than the Surefire’s metal tube.
Save the money on a vertical fore grip and just grip the magwell.
(“most” gunners run a fore grip relatively close to the well anyway so…)
Use your off hand thumb to press light light switch.
Remember, your objective is to light up a hallway or patio not to look like a cool operator with a $350 KAC RAS with expensive schwag hanging off your pic rails.
Hose clamps are a couple of bucks.
(“ooh, shiny not tactical!”, some might say.) So paint em, tape em.
Necessity is the mother of invention right? Don’t listen to snobs and gear queers. Do what works for you.
Let me know how you fare.
S/F
not being rude man .But the bayonet mount is only 15 bucks .hose clamps a few bucks sure ,But really there is no way I could go that route. what works for one Might not work for another. Not a “gear queer or Snob” But before I did that I would use Black zip ties
Good post Warpig. (no rudeness taken)
I tried zipties first and they weren’t as stable as the wider clamps.
I’ll try flex cuffs sometime…
Know that my M4gery (RRA entry tactical) was bought during
The Fed Assault Wpns BS and has no bayonet lug.
I live in Mass and they still subscribe to that bull Shiite.
S/F
Oh now that sucks i didn’t think about the states still following the rules of the AWB .I was thinking of it snagging On gear and stuff ,The Flex cuffs sound good.
I have seen a few Buy small rails and attach them to the standard Hand guards but you have to drill holes in them to do that .
Folks that use quality, purpose-built equipment for it’s intended purpose are not either of the above, and I’m not seeing any evidence of either in this thread. Nobody’s calling you a Luddite for using hose clamps, and since you’ve already had a thread broomed for baseless instigating, you might want to tone down the name-calling.
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Krampus, you might want to check the stickied threads at the top of this subforum, particularly this one: http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=22625
There are many folks out there who have rifles similarly kitted out as yours, who experience no undue clutter to their FOV with a light mounted. The thread I cited is a long one, but has lots of pics and sources that can help you make an informed decision.
Have you tried the ImpactWeaponsComponents stuff?
The have a flashlight mount that mounts to the standard handgaurds w/out modification.
Krampus, you might want to check the stickied threads at the top of this subforum, particularly this one: http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=22625
There are many folks out there who have rifles similarly kitted out as yours, who experience no undue clutter to their FOV with a light mounted. The thread I cited is a long one, but has lots of pics and sources that can help you make an informed decision.
Yes thank you. I’ve just finished looking through the thread, and I’ve decided to go with the MI FST mount. I have experimented with bicycle innertube and I managed to get it to slide over the handguards and place my light in roughly a 9 0’clock position. I think the MI FST would put my light in the most comfortable position for me. I have considered all options suggested to me and I would like to thank everyone for the input.
Yeah this one is really slick too. But how do you get the screws in there without compromising the gas tube? I know on my standard carbine handguards, with a single heat shield, the gas tube is practically touching the interior at the top, right near the FSB. Were those mounts purpose built to be compatible with the MOE?
I just received and installed the IWC TMC 1" OD Light Mount on my Colt 6920. I had to change my hand guard from a double heat shield to a single heat shield M-4 type to readily install the mounting screws. There is plenty of clearance for the nuts if you have the larger oval M-4 hand guard.I checked the RRA website and your upper appears to have the smaller round diameter CAR hand guard. You need at least 3/16" clearance between the gas tube and the underside of the hand guard for the nuts to clear. If you can find a larger diameter hand guard on the cheap,the IWC mount is a very clean and low profile design for installing on the standard hand guard. Even though they are left and right side specific,it is very easy to operate the light,in my case a Surefire G2, with either support hand. Also Earl Pittman of IWC is just great to deal with and will promptly answer any questions or concerns you might have with their products.