Very, very important on these lower magnification scopes.
I’ve had my Vortex 1-6 for the last few months. After 2k rounds, I really like it. Although heavier than other comparable scopes, it doesn’t bother me. This will serve as my multigun scope.
Definitely daylight visible and it is a SFP/2nd Focal Plane (Reticle stay the same size throughout the magnification range).
Very happy with mine.
So both are daylight bright. Both have excellent FOV. The Mk6 has more reticule choices and is considerably lighter but costs quite a bit more.
Yup. The mk6 can be had for 1750-1800. I just saw one on ar15.com for 1650 w the cmr reticule.
If u can wait and u want the vortex, there are more reticules coming. I just wish the thing wasnt as heavy as a sledge hammer.
LOL, yeah, it is 25 oz which makes it 1oz heavier than my IOR 1-8 and 50% heavier than the leupold. I guess the positive to that is that the weight is in the center so it does not affect the balance of the rifle.
How critical is the eyebox and head position on the mk6? Saw the exit pupil was on the small-ish side.
The more i play with it, its a lot less critical in low light conditions. Also, im running a sopmod stock, theres a possibility my head is a bit to high. I need to try a CTR to see if there is a difference.
On a bright day w snow on the ground its definetly an issue. I dont know if its the glare or what but u need to be lined up. At dusk i turn the illumination on to 4 or 5, snap the rifle up to my shoulder and its there instantly.
It is not a red dot, but its damn close. Also being a ffp, the reticle is pretty fine/small at 1x. Most of my shots on 1x r gng to be 50yds or under or at critters on the move so i prefer little obstruction from reticules.
Again, this thing is simply amazing when light is fading.
what mount are you running. Maybe you need to drop the mount?
ADM mount.
Looks like the recon SL mount can drop you a further .3 inches or so. That may be enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9yhgABY97c
is this an accurate depiction of the flicker?
Interesting, thanks for sharing that video.
Have the folks considering these two optics, considered the VCOG? Grant is offering a great price on them, FWIW.
I’d say the Vortex might still be the better option on a 7.62 rifle - that weight difference is masked, and the more solid feeling Razor might be worth that tradeoff. On my 5.56 stuff, the MK6 weight alone made that the choice - I’ll accept the very limited eyebox with zoom above 3x for how well that reticle runs for me at lower power.
The VCOG into this equation adds a lot more - it seems to me that Trijicon really has the best .mil contract optic of the lot, but that’s still a bulky optic; and the CMR reticles on the Leupy are an okay preemptive answer to the horseshoe reticles on the VCOG.
What reticle do you have?
How does the limited eyebox of MK6 affect your shooting?
I have the Vortex, and like it. But, I am looking to get the MK6 as well if funds permit. So I am trying to get as much info as possible.
I would take a VCOG over the Mark 6, but I’m not sure if you’ll gain much over the Vortex Razor HD II. If you want something clearer, look at a Kahles.
Why the VCOG?
I thought about that too, since Techeyes has the VCOG cheaper with a Bobro than the MK6. What is leading me toward the MK6 is the weight, and that the CMR-W reticle seems better. I must admit I LOVED my ACOG.
From what I could gather the VCOG has a little less FOV, the MK6 a little less than the Vortex. The MK6 is the lightest. I will go out on a limb and say the VCOG should be the most robust.
If the VCOG had some kind of mil scale it would be close to be perfect.
The illumination on the Mark 6 is not that good for a nearly $2k scope. Likewise, it is not really forgiving, in the sense that you have to line up precisely behind the reticule to see the illumination on. I also find that the illumination at times appears to scatter inside of the tube. I think the CMR-W reticule is great for distance shooting (depending on your load and barrel length), but when I look through a Swarovski or Kahles, the Mark 6’s glass fails to impress me for the price point.
The VCOG does have a smaller FOV, but I subjectively felt that the eyebox was a little bit more forgiving than the Mark 6’s I’ve looked through. The biggest plus side to the VCOG IMHO is the way it mounts to the rifle. No need to worry about rings. Likewise, the horseshoe reticule is fairly crisp, and I did not witness any scatter in the models I’ve looked through (although I felt the segmented circle model did scatter: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?104-1-4-Variable-optic-options/page48 ). Of course, like the ACOG, the VCOG is preset to certain ranges and a certain load. This sucks for anyone running a 14.5" or 20" gun in 7.62 or some different combo in a 5.56 model. Mil-based would be better, but it points to the fact that the VCOG was made to fulfill a military contract for a certain gun and round.
You mention weight as a factor, but remember, you need to include the weight of the mount/rings with the Mark 6 when comparing it to the VCOG, which already includes the mount. My Kahles is very light, but when combined with the ADM Delta mount, it is heavy. Hence, all of these scopes will weigh over 20 oz with the mount. The Vortex Razor HD II is the heaviest of all, but none of these scopes will feel like you’re running an Aimpoint T1.
So in summary, I would take the Vortex Razor HD II over both the Mark 6 and VCOG. With the Razor, you get a nice daylight bright red dot and mil-based reticule. You have to spend $2700 to get something similar to that, and it’s called the S&B Short Dot. I went with the Kahles because I got $300 off at the NRA Convention and I did not need NVD capability at the moment. Likewise, the glass was better than any of the other 1-6x scopes I’ve looked through at the show or on the range. The only thing better was the S&B 1.5-8x26 scope I looked at, but that doesn’t count since it was over $3k 
Thanks for that, a link to your reviews.
I think I will just stick with my Vortex until I find that I need something else, instead of just wanting to try something else.
Though, Midway does have a pretty good deal on Kahles right now…