Well looks like you have all conivinced me to buy a Glock instead of another SIG. I am looking at the 27 or 19 or 23. I see they have C modles anyone ever shoot those and how they compare to regular model Glocks. I want something that isnt as big and heavy as my SIG 229R
For me the 19 is the overall best gun. It works for carry and home defense. I would stay away from the C model guns, you will get tired very fast of the muzzle blast. The ports work well but you don’t need them in a 9mm.
If you want a sub-compact go with the G26 in 9mm. The recoil in the G27 is sharp and in my opinion the .40 round is a little much for small size of the sub-compact Glocks. The G27 is not bad if you are just shooting a few rounds through it, but after 100 or more rounds, most shooters don’t care for it. If it’s not comfortable, you won’t shoot it, if you won’t shoot it, you won’t be proficient with it.
I sold my G27 years ago and went with the G26, which is much more comfortable to shoot. After our last qual, we had at least 3 officers that I know of sell their G27’s and purchase either G26’s or G19’s.
The compensated Glocks are not needed. And the compensated ports can cause problems / extreem discomfort when shooting from retention. I saw a female student learn this the hard way in a class a couple years ago with a compensated G19. To keep this conversation “G rated”, I’ll say that this student’s right breast liked the compensation the least
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I’ve been carrying a G19 on duty as a plain clothes Detective for the last 5 years. It conceals well, yet is large enough to shoot comfortably. I have taken several tactical training classes with the Glock 19 where we have shot 1,500+ rounds in a 2 day class.
If I could only have 1 Glock, it would be the G19.
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Jeff got me back into Glocks, and I was then issued a 19 and have been extremely impressed – that I had to replace my personal 17 with two 19’s.
I concur with everything so far. Stay away from ‘C’ models, the G27 does have a sharp recoil ‘bite’, and 99% of the time the G19 is the way to go. I carry a .40 G-22 and owing the slightly improved ballistics I’d recommend the G-23 for concealed use.
I carried a G-21 for about a year and found it to be too bulky for me. If you have larger frame and big mitts have at it.
The 19 is a tough gun for anything else in the Glock lineup to beat. As USMC03 mentioned, it is large enough to shoot effectively and comfortably in a high round-count class, but small enough to conceal effectively. I use my G19 exclusively in training (as it’s my primary carry gun), but I am also able to wear it comfortably every day in what could be considered “deep concealment.” It might not meet every need at the extremes, but it does so many things so well that it’s hard to find fault with someone who chooses a G19 for all around use.
Thanks everyone for the advice and letting me in on the Glock secrets you all have. How are the mod options on glocks such as trigger work or other things of that nature. I am sure Robb (gotm4) can elaborate on that but what do you all know.
A Glock is NOT a 1911, Glocks work perfect right out of the box. Buy a Glock, put a set of quality sights on it, buy a bunch of mags and ammo for it, and shoot it a lot.
It’s been my experience that the more modifications you perform on a Glock the more problems you will have with it.
Get a 19 or 17 whichever fits your hand best, put some Trijicons on it and shoot the hell out of it.
If it’s a game gun like 2 of mine that I can help you tweak it for that. Don’t mod a fighting gun.
It’s soulless.
However, the 19 is the best compromise between capacity and size. PLUS, it accepts G17 mags so your spares can be 17rd mags instead of 15rd mags.
I carry a G19 now.
The 1911’s I have are superior to it, and they have souls. ![]()
Even though I’m a true 1911 man at heart I still consider the G19 to be one of the finest handguns ever made for all of the reasons stated before in this thread.
My favorite Glock is hands down the G34, but if could have only one it would be a G19.
Well I will have to make a run up to VA Arms to see what they have to offer. Robb this is just a plain old gun not Race gun or anything like that so I guess I just need night sights. And some mags and ammo.
I also like that Glocks can be “Personalized” (Not “Modified”) very easily. Glock has everything a shooter could need. Want a lighter or heavier trigger, extended mag catch, or extended slide release? No problem, Glock has truly drop-in parts readily available. This is a serious plus over my beloved 1911 that requires expensive gunsmithing. Stick with factory Glock parts and it does hurt their reliability one bit.
Personally I install a factory Glock extended mag catch & slide release, plus a 3.5# connector in all my Glocks that do not come with these standard.
Interesting I will have to see what the fun shop has the 26 isnt too bad either. I might have to sell my SIG since it doesnt get much use anymore 357 SIG is expensive to shoot anymore. Anyone looking for a SIG 229R DAK?
Just a word of caution on the Glock extended mag release.
I had a Glock 34 that I kept above my head on the headboard of my bed. The Glock 34 and 35 both come with an extended mag release and an extended slide release.
I am right handed so I kept the gun with the left side facing down (left is the same side that has the slide release and mag release).
I usually keep my bedside gun in the holster I carry it in, but for whatever reason my G34 was sitting on the headboard of my bed, unholstered.
I heard something that woke me, (sounded like something being knocked over in the basement). I grabbed my G34 and a flash light to go see what it was. As I brought the pistol off the off the headboard and into an upright (firing) position, the mag fell out of the magwell, and on the deck making an extreemly loud noise.
What I later discovered the following morning is that in order to grab the Glock 34 off of a hard / flat surface (like a table top, nightstand, shelf on a head board, etc), you push the gun down against the surface in order to both grab the gun and get a decent firing grip.
The factory Glock extended mag release is long enough that when you go to get a grip on the pistol and push it down, you will release the magazine. Not a good thing as I learned the hard way.
As for the extended slide release, just about every instructor that I know that is familiar with Glocks, teach the “sling shot” method of releasing the slide (ie. When the slide is locked back on an empty magazine, insert a new magazine, then grap the back of the slide with a cupped hand (in the area of the rear serations), thumb pointed at your chest, pull the slide to the rear until it stops, and release. This works much better under stress than trying to find a slide stop / slide release).
Just my .02, your milage may vary.
I’ll add my vote for the Glock 19.
I ordered it with factory Trijicon 3 dot sights - the only modification that I intend to make use of.
Otherwise, mags, a good holster and lots of practice!
BTW, the Sidearmor modular OWB holster works very well for me.
I am not a HSLD guy but can offer you my experiences of Glocks vs. 1911 vs. Sig. I have had a G22,23, 27,19 Colt 1991A1 and a Sig P228. Out of the six pistols listed the Glock 19 worked best for me. The 22, 23,27 and 1911 were long traded or sold off. The P228 was sold to fund the purchase of a second Glock 19. I came to the decision that it would be best for me to consolidate, and that is just what I did. Night sights are all that are “Needed” on a Glock.
I have a G17, just traded my Beretta Elite II 9mm for a G21, and will be getting a G19 shortly.
This must have been a one in a million problem. I tried for just over a 1/2 hour to replicate this scenario and could not get the mag to fall out.
I was taught to use the slide release during reloads by LAV himself, but I can use either technique with zero issues. For me the slide release method is just flat out faster. To me hitting the slide release under stress is no more troubling than hitting a tiny mag catch or inserting a magazine into the mag well. It’s safe to say Larry is not a fan of the “Fine Motor Skills Argument”.
IMO: Pick the technique that works best for you, practice it constantly and anybody will do fine.
Dinger,
I just took another Officer's Glock 35 with an extended mag release and the mag was released 2 out of 5 times as I picked it up off of a desk top. YMMV