This Sunday, June 20th 2010, Greenville Gun Club will have their monthly CPSL match. It is a practice/more laid back shoot that is open to the public. It is 15 dollars to shoot, and requires 100 rounds of pistol and 50 centerfire rifle rounds. It is somewhat similar to IDPA/IPSC in format, scoring, and layout. Head over to http://www.cpsl-ggc.org/ for more information. I think I am going to make it out to it with a buddy if he can get off work.
I might ride up for that if I can get my rifle zero’d in time. She’s currently tore down (gas block and tube is off) awaiting a rail installation tomorrow.
What time Sunday?..
Well nevermind, my pistols actually at Dan Wesson for Service, now that I actually think about it.
I usher at the church I attend on Sundays anyway, so I doubt I could make it.
But the good thing is, this is a consistent match, I think it’d be a good starting place, neutral to everybody as far as cost.
I also don’t know how crowded this place may get on the weekends when they don’t have an event scheduled.
The Skip J thing is a great idea, but the above is a real legitimate concern, I know Presidio Defense pretty much hosts all of their training as far as I know at Skip J, and I’d imagine they’d be using the 50 yard pistol/rifle range. I believe that’s what they used with us present.
I can tell you from viewing Skip J’s website that they don’t want anyone posting targets at less than 100 yards at the 100 yard rifle range.
http://www.skipjrange.com/members.htm
Bay 10 (rifle bay) is for 100 meter shooting only. Any member placing targets other than at the 100 meter impact berm will be subject to immediate membership termination.
Use Bay 5 for short range rifle shooting up to 50 yards.
That’s if they’re not hosting a class/event…
Plus, realistically, I think we’ll have to contact them and find out if we can get some kind of member/non member rate or something to that effect figured out to get a group there. Which… I doubt they’re going to let us do, and probably not on a weekend, so I doubt we could get a group of guys out there to shoot for a few hours with no memberships on a Saturday/Sunday…
I like Skip J, but it looks like we’d have to figure out the membership thing and probably do it sometime during the week that worked for most of us.
I like the Greenville Gun Club CPSL competition, but… between obligations and a broken hammer at service, I won’t be able to make this month.
Maybe we should plan something at that event for next month? It’s out far enough that we can all arrange it, and pretty centrally located for everybody.
I figure the first step is get the ball rolling, let’s all meet up, meet one another, and then as time goes on (ETA: forgot two words) we’ll gain momentum we will figure something out.
Plus I bet most of you guys probably have weekends off.
What do you guys think?
ETA 2: I forgot to add, I think that CPSL event would be a good start until we iron out some more permanent stuff, and explore the Skip J option.
This would be fun and something I’d like to do in the near future.
Right now though, and I don’t know about the rest of you, I’d like to get in some more training / practice before doing a competition. Especially a 2-gun. I have a new carbine and we’re still getting to know each other.
I couldn’t make it Sunday anyway. Fathers Day and all.
Scoby
While I agree, it seems like it’s only 50 or so rounds of carbine, and more than double that in pistol. I figured I’d suck my first time out, so, no worries. There’d be some fierce competition for last if I was involved. 
(Honestly, I shoot as frequently as possible for me, but, in my first match situation which something like this would be, I’d just be more worried about not getting myself DQ’d and complying with all safety rules, and to a lesser extent my performance.)
As a side note I’d love to get out and shoot before hand but as you can see… Kind of grasping at straws for a place to meet up.
What do you think Scoby, what’d you have in mind?
Happy Father’s day by the way, I was talking with my Dad, he ordered a BCM Mid Length AR today, I bought him some PMAG’s and USGI Mag’s with Magpul followers.
You’re a nice thoughtful son.
Scoby
If I can get this thing back together tomorrow and zero’d, I’m going up to the Sunday match. I’ll either have to do a night zero tomorrow evening (that’ll be a pain) or wake up early Sunday morning to zero (and thus really annoy the neighbors).
I also would like to get a lot more shooting under my belt before I did any kind of competition. I also don’t have a pistol at the moment… I’m only 20 so I plan on getting one next may as soon as I turn 21, or maybe I can borrow my brother’s G19 if I were to do anything. I’m sure they wouldn’t like my bein under 21 to register for the event tho. I would definitely be up for getting together sometime and meeting you guys and shooting a little bit.
I was in your shoes not too long ago, I’m 22, 23 in September.
I’ve had my CWP since January, and my CBOB I got last June.
I think we’ve got a relatively young group. 
But I think we’ll have fun, I mean, from what I gather the CPSL competition is low intensity.
Plus, certain things I approach knowing I’m going to suck, and you’re new at it, so you’re going to suck, everyone does. Expect it, I know that sounds pessimistic, but for me, it helps me bleed away the anxiety of doing something that’s competitive and I’m nervous about.
So I’m going to relax, do the best I can, and realize I’m an amateur at this point, and I’ll probably perform like one. It’s if I’m successful that I’ll have problems. 
There are some good books out there on shooting competitively, and I’ll tell ya, mindset seems to be very important.
I might take a look over at Brian Enos’ forums, competition out the ying yang, tons of advice.
I’m 22 also.
I was able to take my CCW class when I was 20, just couldn’t mail the paperwork in until I was 21.
Since the SC laws changed on possession of handguns (was 21, now 18, if I recall correctly), I don’t think you’d have any trouble shooting the match. I think you can even purchase a pistol private party once you are 18 in SC, but I don’t recall correctly.
Actually he’s 100% correct, you can buy handguns from other people, just not anyone with a Federal Firearms License to deal firearms… and not handgun ammo.
Gun Laws don’t make sense.
I would recommend if you come shooting to shoot the Glock 19… I shoot .45 ACP, and I’ll tell you, 9mm prices have me considering picking up an M&P9 in the near future. It’s just so cheap compared to .45 ACP.
I went to Walmart I could get a box of 100 9mm FMJ for… I think around $20?
I went to Dick’s Sporting Goods, box of 50 of .45 FMJ Remington… $25, but, they did have Monarch at Academy for $18.99. Which I only bought a box of 50… I’ve never used it before so I’m going to give a small sampling a shot and frankly, I’m skeptical of it’s performance, but hopefully I’m wrong.
I had a terrible time with under powered ammo related malfunctions in my CBOB with the last box of 100 of WWB, at least 15 stoppages on an otherwise perfectly functional gun (Failure to feed, failure to cycle the slide back far enough to reset the hammer, etc.), so even though the prices are tempting, I need more dependable practice ammo. I’ve got another box of 100, we’ll see how it performs, if it does it again, I’ll ditch that ammo for the foreseeable future.
and not handgun ammo.
That’s why you buy ammo for your “9mm carbine”. For a while, I really did have a Marlin Camp Carbine so I had that true alibi. I’ve never been to a real gunshop that’s asked to see my ID for ammo…only chain stores. And even then, it’s not always. The trick is to look older than you are.
The M&P 9 is a wonderful pistol.
Looks like I’m going to be at the match in Greenville…just got to zero tomorrow morning, the gun works just fine…PM me if you’re going and I’ll tell you my name so we can meet up at the match.
Avenger,
I found out today from the guy running these matches that there will not be any centerfire rifle stages tomorrow. I was livid when I received the news, and I am sorry that this has happened. Centerfire rifle courses were planned to be in the mix, but they took them out relatively last minute. There will still be 4 stages though, and you will shoot at least a hundred rounds of pistol. I also can’t make it out due to Father’s day, and I wish I was getting to meet some of ya’ll.
:mad: I’ll still go, but well, that’s just annoying. I was anticipating the rifle stages more than anything else…
Lack of judges/ROs?
I’ve only got two mags for my S&W M&P. That be enough?
I’m not entirely sure.
I doubt that would be the reason, they might have figured it would be too much work if not many would be there because of father’s day.
You should be fine with two mags. I have never shot more than 28 rounds in a single stage. Most people will be carrying 2 or 3, but I honestly don’t think there will be a stage that will require a third mag.
That’s why you buy ammo for your “9mm carbine”. For a while, I really did have a Marlin Camp Carbine so I had that true alibi. I’ve never been to a real gunshop that’s asked to see my ID for ammo…only chain stores. And even then, it’s not always. The trick is to look older than you are.
I tried buying .22 WMR for my Marlin Rifle, and it showed up as pistol, she asked me for I.D. I said I wasn’t 21 (wasn’t at the time), but it was for a rifle, she said “Sorry.” I pointed to the Rifle Magazines they sold for my rifle in .22 WMR and she said she didn’t to be a part of any trouble.
You know those .22 Magnums… Bear killers for sure.
Okay, back from the match.
It was very fun, even without the rifle stages. As expected, I was pretty slow, but my draws were decent and my reloads were pretty good. I was drawing and reloading from concealment (and I was the only one to do so, I think)
1st stage- engage several targets while behind a series of barricades (leaning out from behind the barricades). I completely missed one target.
2nd stage- engage three targets at close range with two rounds to the chest each, reload, headshoot each target, then engage the Texas Star (that was very hard for me). I totally blew this stage, but shooting that damnable Texas Star was entertaining. I got all the plates on it, eventually, having about three rounds left.
Third stage- while seated, draw and shoot one round at each target in order from left to right, then go back from right to left with one more round for each target again. Reload, reholster. Repeat for the fourth stage. I was slow, but I shot each target clean.
Overall, I had a lot of fun, even though I did very poorly by competition rules. I used it for more of putting pressure on me than anything else. I did well with my reloads (not insanely quick, but smooth and no fumbles, which suprised me a lot).
I’ll get better with more practice, but I know I’ve caught the competition bug now. I need to take some pistol and rifle classes when I get the chance.
Which group were you in? The first one?
Yeah, I was in the first squad. Last one to shoot each stage.
I fired off an email to the Skip J range to see if they are hosting the monthly IDPA match on July 3rd (in respect to the July 4th weekend), and if they are, I’m going to that one.
Edit: received the reply this evening, the match is still scheduled. I’ll do my best to be there.