Les Baer

I’ve been looking at a Les Baer Police Special at a local gun shop priced at $1475. Does anyone here have experience with one of these? I know the company is well known for their 1911 45s, but I never have read anything about their ARs. For that kind of money I would think they would be a top tier product.

You are better off with a BCM, colt, or DDM4

You are better off with a BCM, colt, or DDM4.

For nearly $1,500 I would think they could at least put the castle nut on properly and stake it for that matter.

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=25447&highlight=Baer
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As far as the castle nut being on wrong I can not comment. However, I have owened 2- of his Varmint rifles and they are absolute shooters. He sends a test target with a 5 round under 1/2 moa gurantee. I can say they do that and more. The 1/2 moa is not somethimes or on a good day etc… mine would shoot it every time. Are they expensive- yes. But so are Noveske’s, and all the other high end AR’s. That being said, I think Noveske’s are a better gun and the stainless ones shot as well. To each their own, but I would not be so quick to call a Les Baer a POS either, espically if you have never shot one. The basic AR vs a Colt I would go Colt. If you are looking for a precision varmint type rifle you can not go wrong.

These are not recommended for various reasons. Read the above link for a small sampling of why. If it were me I would invest my money in Noveske, BCM, LMT or Colt.

I think I recall reading an explanation as to why the castle nut was on backwards and it was something aking to “SWAT teams requested it that way” or something link that.

Now, I’m not on a SWAT team, but that seemed a little wacky to me. :confused:

It doesn’t catch donut crumbs as easily when carried in the low ready.

Seriously, maybe some guy thinks he may snag a rope on it. So, have their armorer do the mod and not force the rest of the buying customers to have to deal with it reversed.

I am very happy with mine with the exception of the handguard and stock. It has an excellent trigger and is very accurate.

While I think Les makes a good product, I think that $1500 is definitely on the high side. There are other choices for less money, my choice would be BCM based on personal experience.

Thanks for all the replies guys, I value your opinions.

Allow me to beat the dead equine. There is nothing special at all about their AR’s. If you don’t care about non-5.56 chambers, non-HP/MPI bolts and barrels, improperly installed castle nuts, and you simply want to punch paper then their stuff is for you.

If you do care about all of the above, get a Daniel Defense, LMT, Colt, BCM, or Noveske. I could care less if my AR will shoot 1/2 MOA. I will take a 2 MOA reliable carbine any day of the week.

I am curious about the castle nut being installed the opposite way. Does this harm anything? It actually seems like a good idea to me since it does get the sharp edges out of harms way.

Thanks

The explanation for the backwards castle nut was explained in the American Rifleman review of the gun, its because SWAT units complained of scraping their hands on it during “rapid stock manipulations/deployments”, so Baer reversed it. I’m not a SWAT guy, so I set my stock and leave it. :rolleyes:

Save some money, do yourself a favor, and buy this:

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You’ll thank us later. :slight_smile:

Supernt,

We could also ask why the Military or Colt has not changed it. Maybe the folks who designed it knew why it was done this way.

their varmint guns are insane…mine was overkill accurate for hunting. I mean, when really doing it right w/ wind flags & the bench, etc…the gun was ragged holes. Not sure who did my bbl but I won bets against good bolt guns with that AR.

Just sold it & I do not ususally get rid of tack drivers, but I’ve changed direction and needed the coin for the next project.

I would not get their police model knowing what i do today but can certainly say their varmints are high dollar, but great paper punchers if you have the throw down $$$$.

A Noveske or a Colt 6724 or TE6700 can do the same accuracy with in spec components.

That is the biggest line of bullshit I’ve ever heard. There are other points on the gun that are much sharper or more snag prone.

bring your wallet…i sold it to a buddy and ready when you are. Benchrest shooting is not a guarantee of 1/2moa or better.

Any gun that can shoot in the .2-.3’s w/ flags is worth betting aganst another ar…this was not with factory ammo either, but the 77’s by fed and BH were very good too. I used Lapua brass, N140 and custom pills when comp started.

I’m Not saying another company or custom smith can make a one holer AR. I’m just stating I had an above average consistant LB-AR that impressed this old benchrest guy.

I just trust this gun to bet groups with against any AR…think I just got a reallly good bbl. or happened to have 6-7 insane consistant trips at the range.

Sorry to hijack mag…i know your op was about the police model.