Les Baer Carbine

AR/M4 AR General Discussion
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Here is a follow up to the previous thread about the Les Baer carbines and the ass backwards castle nut. The first is my email to them and then the response.

Hello,

Recently I saw an ad in American Rifleman depicting your Les Baer .223 AR carbine. At first I thought my eyes were deceiving me until I looked closer and saw that the castle nut was installed backwards on the lower receiver extension as the large cut outs should be facing the rear of the weapon. I thought maybe it was an anomaly until I went to your website. The AR carbine on the home page likewise has the castle nut installed incorrectly. For a company that purports to make the “best 1911 and AR’s on the planet” I would think that something like this wouldn’t be overlooked. Thank you for your attention in this matter.

                                          Respectfully,

Not an error! A decision Les made during extensive testing of
the rifle, before putting them into production. His call!

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Yikes!

That must have been some extensive testing.

I went to a gun show this past weekend and all of the Oly’s were the same way.

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So have you sent them a reply asking why he decided that? I would like to know what it was that made him decide to do such a thing. Is there more prominent staking?

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I considered it for about 0.57 seconds. But, I know all too well what kind of response I will get. Just look at the first lame ass reply. All I can say is whoever buys one is a sucker.

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How do we know that Les didn’t do something outside the box? Did he discover a better way to do something?

My Les Baer 1911’s have a few tweaks and slight changes that are different than the way others do it and they run like champs.

I do think that I think his AR’s are pricey.

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This rifle is a joke. For the price, I’d at least expect something better than a Shotgun News special rail on the front…

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I’m sure Les has it all figured out.

:rolleyes:

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You are correct. How do we know? Especially since no one there has mentioned anything about this new found technique and made it public. Sorry, but that is a stupid statement. You can’t stake the castle nut, or at least without it looking like ass. Sounds to me like that answer was pulled from someones ass.

Hmm…maybe I’ll try it here on some of our carbines and see what happens. After all staking the castle nut is no big deal and never loosen up.

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Wow. I am at a loss for words here. A mistake is one thing, even letting it slip though QC to get into some photos. But to intentionally install a part wrong? Wow, just wow.

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Les should stick to building pistols. It is easy to build a higher quality rifle for less money.

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Somehow I have a feeling that Les Baer Loctite their castle nuts.

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Most likely.

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Baer AR15s are nothing special.He uses alot of the same parts everyone else is using.His 6.8SPC barrels are made by Mossberg,not Obermeyer,Lilja or Krieger,nothing special.Way overpriced for what you are getting.The AR15 industry is an incestious one.:wink:

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He knows better than Colt who has been doing it for 50 years?

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My question was not made to doubt the vast amount of experience on this board or the correct assembly of an M4. All I was asking is whether or not he was doing something different and not necessarily backwards. It seems to me that nobody here has even handled this “M4” and yet are passing judgement.

He does a much better job than Colt when it comes to 1911’s. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Nobody here needs to handle it because they have enough experience to know what it consists of.

I’m waiting for you to give me an explanation of why the castle nut would need to be installed backwards.

He does a much better job than Colt when it comes to 1911’s.

Again you are wrong. You are trying to compare a “match” gun to a USGI built gun. You cannot compare the two.

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Les says he puts the castle nut on backwards to reduce it snagging on things.:rolleyes:

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so does this mean that the nut is not staked? Just so it wont snag?
This seems to very ill-thought.

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I would suggest Les Baer and Wilson stick with the platform they know.

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Yep, that is what that means. Also Les makes EVERYTHING at his house, or so I was told by 2 members on the TOS. Barrels, uppers, rails, BCG’s, springs, detents, pins, gastubes, flashhiders, receiver extensions, buffer, ect, ect. Only things Les doesn’t make is the stock and trigger. They called Les and he confirmed it.:rolleyes: