Legal Open Carry in cities

I don’t like it.

I think its biggest accomplishment is allowing communists and anarchists to block roads and threaten drivers with rifles and shotguns.

Tell me why you think I have the right to stand, even to the side, at a busy intersection with a rifle in my hands screaming political rants at people.

Because I don’t think I do, nor anyone else. I think I do have the right to travel without openly armed people yelling their politics at me during my commute.

And you know when commies do this they don’t just “have” them. They point, brandish, threaten, and menace.

I’m all for permitless concealed carry and open carry in rural environments. But not open carry in cities.

I’m open to learn and change my mind.

I’m curious about other opinions on this board.

Doing any of the above is illegal and not protected by the 2nd Amendment. The 2nd Amendment is not an excuse to intimidate fellow citizens. It’s a protection against government over reach.

As far as you, I, or anyone else not liking open carry inside city limits goes: tough shit. As outlined by DC vs Heller, my rights don’t stop at the city limits sign. Rights are not defined by feelings. If they were then we wouldn’t have any rights.

The Laws against “brandishing/menacing” need to be Strictly enforced, and prosecuted. That’s the only way “Open Carry” makes any sense.
I realize that’s a fukking Pipe Dream in Leftist locales.

Open Carry has a place in my view (Rural/Ranch/Farm), but NOT in the scenario you refer to.

I’m sure it varies state to state, but in PA the only way to open carry in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh is if you have a LTCF (concealed carry permit). So depending on what state you’re seeing this, and their laws pertaining to it, some of these people may be breaking the law.

The solution is simple and doesn’t require neutering yourself:

Defeat the commies.

Remove the Marxist Leninist brainwashing from schools. It takes 10-20 years for a new generation of patriots to replace the half baked intellectuals currently in potions of power.

[video=youtube_share;Z1EA2ohrt5Q]https://youtu.be/Z1EA2ohrt5Q[/video]

https://nypost.com/2021/05/06/what-critical-race-theory-is-really-about/
Critical race theory is an academic discipline, formulated in the 1990s and built on the intellectual framework of identity-based Marxism.

EDUCATION; The Mainstreaming of Marxism in U.S. Colleges
https://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/25/us/education-the-mainstreaming-of-marxism-in-us-colleges.html

A Marxist Education In ‘Hypersensitivity’ As A Cause Of Violence On American Campuses
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomlindsay/2016/12/27/a-marxist-education-in-hypersensitivity-as-a-cause-of-violence-on-american-campuses/?sh=42530591b553

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/socialism-rising-universities-and-radical-profs-helping-steer-leftward-shift-in-politics
A 2004 poll found that among sociology professors, 25 percent self-identified as "Marxist,” 49 percent identified as Democrats, and 5 percent as Republicans. It’s not just sociology – in social sciences broadly, more professors identified as Marxist than as conservative.

California has curriculum modeled more on marxism than on markets
https://thehill.com/opinion/education/457437-california-has-curriculum-modeled-more-on-marxism-than-on-markets

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hope-for-californias-schools-11601594802
Gavin Newsom vetoes a K-12 curriculum in Marxist indoctrination

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/candace-owens-gavin-newsom-blm-senate-kamala-harris
Owens said the Black Lives Matter movement reached out to Newsom only to demand that he submit to its agenda.

The radicals have taken over: Academic extremism comes to Canada
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/academic-extremism-comes-to-canada/article33185073/

University campuses have always leaned a little left. But in the 1990s, as the previous generation of academics was replaced by baby boomers, they began to lean dramatically left. The humanities and social sciences were colonized by an unholy alliance of poststructuralists and Marxists – people who believe that Western civilization is a corrupt patriarchy that must be dismantled.

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/smith-indoctrination-in-albertas-classrooms-must-stop
I’ve known since I was a teenager that some public school social studies teachers seem to lean toward Marxism. I came home one day from Grade 8 social studies class telling my parents that my teacher thought the Soviet Union was just terrific. My dad had a different view. He didn’t think much of the fact that Joseph Stalin had starved 10 million people, mostly Ukrainians

Communism still present on campuses 100 years after the Russian Revolution
https://ryersonian.ca/communism-still-present-on-campuses-one-hundred-years-after-the-russian-revolution/
A hundred years later, the communist thoughts that inspired Lenin to rebel against the Russian monarchs and aristocrats, still exist in Canadian universities.

In the meantime:

https://www.armormax.com/blog/you-can-get-your-own-armored-vehicle/

Although civilian armored cars are not as secure as military vehicles, they are more luxurious. Further, you can customize your civilian vehicles according to your need. These vehicles are equipped with the latest security measures to protect your beloved ones.

The Market for Bulletproof Vehicles Is Skyrocketing
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-31/the-market-for-bulletproof-cars-is-sky-high

Demand in the United States is higher than ever.

You can in Philthy with a valid PA LTCF, but bing some of the nightmares those who have have encountered!

You never want to take away someone’s legitimate right because someone else or everyone else abused that right. That’s unjust. Utilitarianism is for tyrants.

Freedom means people get to do things you do not like. What you quoted though is illegal in every state I know of.

I’m all for the rights.

Get you a small audio video camera. If they point it at you or threaten you. Defend yourself if necessary. If you don’t have to use deadly force. Report them and give a copy of the evidence to the police. Follow up daily on charges.

Nothing is illegal for the left.

As far as the overall topic - never be to hasty to throw away something you might need yourself later…

Open carry … I would avoid it, to each his own. If I were a criminal and wanted a firearm, an open carry due would get distracted, stabbed in the neck, and relieved of his firearm. Most open carry advocates, like the general population, are oblivious to their surroundings, in addition to (broad brush here) being obese, out of shape, and physically incapable fudd types. Granted exceptions exist, but open carry in an urban environment, sorry just not for me; your mileage may vary.

Then by all means let’s decide for everyone else. Seriously, you object because “communists and anarchist”? So how is that different from Dems citing criminal misuse as a justification for legislating our rights?

And here’s another one, conceal carry means the EXACT SAME PEOPLE are armed, but you are somehow uncomfortable when you can see the gun?

Now there are strategic considerations with open carry vs. conceal carry with pros and cons on each side, but that has nothing to do with “rights.”

Can’t believe I even had to have this discussion on a “gun” forum. Christ…might as well be on Glock Talk.

If it’s so easy to remove that BS from schools, why not just stop having people LIKE communism. Tell them it’s bad.

There problem solved. I’ll make sure and tell everyone I see “communism is bad.”

Got any more overly simplistic solutions to problems you will never resolve?

I got an idea, how about we don’t fcvk with guns in any shape, fashion or form. Shall not infringe means just that regardless of what certain POS say/believe/legislate. Don’t like it, don’t do it, no one is forcing anyone to own guns let alone carry them, just don’t presume to make that call for others.

It is a good thing my rights don’t depend on you liking them.

This is as dumb as cutting your junk off because the neighbors have too many kids.

As a personal example of why open carry in cities is good, I open carry in a city at least once a week. Why? Because when I’m hiking around town for my weekly rucks, I really don’t have any good way of concealed carrying a gun. And with the sheer amount of homeless folks, many of whom I’ve encountered completely strung out on something or another, I really want to have something to defend myself if the encounter goes poorly.

As a cop in a big metro city that has a lot of open carry i see people open carrying pretty much daily. Hasn’t been an issue at all.

Sounds like you have people committing crimes under political guises, not an open carry problem.

I never liked the idea of open carry until I moved to a state that allowed me to carry a gun.

I agree that in the city ie Raleigh, Charlotte et al, I CCW, but that is also due to them being full of sh*tlibs and I don’t need the hassle, aside from the security requirements of being in a city.

If I am running to a local Walmart or Home Depot I have an OWB holster. In the winter it has a jacket over it so I guess it’s CCW but in the summer, not so much. Oh well.

If someone is being a douche while open carrying, that doesn’t mean open carry should be illegal. Just means the douche needs to have a conversation with local LEO.

The end.

With all the rioting and open carrying that has been going on, why hasn’t this happened yet? I hear this all the time that your rifle will be easily taken.

Any links or statistics to back up this claim? All the pictures and videos from open carry protests that I have seen show gun owners coming in all shapes and sizes. The vast majority are AKs and ARs at these protests so where are all the fudd guns?