She’s the one that won 4 medals for shotgunning. She said she trains by playing video games. Ha, and I’ve been telling the grandkids that stuff rots their brains. Rhode also said she wants to get more women and minorities involved in shotgunning. I ain’t making this up. I read it at something called shotgun life. It’s at http://www.shotgunlife.com
Interactive media(video games) are the future of education/training in general.Or at least a major part of it.
People always grasp on to the most negative aspects of things they dont understand.
Video games are whatever you make(and make of) them.The possibilities are endless.
I saw a video recorded lecture Col. Dave Grossman gave. He stated that whenever Duckhunt came out, the new recruits the military was seeing that had never fired a real firearm before were getting marksmanship scores off the charts after little training. They tied the correlation to game and adopted simulators for training.
Adam
Well, you live you learn. Thanks for the info.
You should read his book; On Combat. In it he discusses the relationship between school shootings and video games. It has been found that a lot of the kids doing the shootings have very little experience with firearms. Yet, they have a high percentage of head and upper torso shots during the shooting spree. Some if this is attributed to the shooters playing video games. In the games they are given more points for head shots and are taught a type of instinctive shooting.
He also spouts alot of ignorant non-sense about video games.
…with all due respect to Grossman, a good deal of it is due to having victims who are terrified and unable to fight back.
When one has no moral qualms about pointing a weapon at a crowd of innocents and pulling the trigger…well…it’s a much easier job than placing surgically accurate fire on a particular threat who is moving and shooting back.
what were the BRM simulators in OSUT called? i’d love to have one of those in my Man Cave
America’s Army, http://www.americasarmy.com/
Training our future soldiers!!! 
I see nothing wrong with using video games to teach and train with. Player on Player first person shooters can teach a lot about tactics teamwork etc.
Good article and I have no problem with Video games. Heck my business partners kid wanted to be a pro gamer (at age 12). My partner scoffed and poo-pooed the idea until I showed him the numbers these kids can rake in. He relented, took his son to a regional competition and the kid is now on to the state tournament. If he does good enough, he could eaisly pull in a 5 figure salary.
We had FATS at ours. Light Arms and Law Enforcement versions.
http://www.fatsinc.com/main.php
Ah, just realized what you were asking…you’re thinking of the Weaponeer.
I’m pretty decent at Call of Duty 4 so I’m pretty sure if you dropped me in the sandbox I would be calling in UAV’s and Air strikes like a pro!
that’s it- the weaponeer.
probably 6-7k for an old beat to shit unit from 1990, on the civvi market
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Personally, I do not play video games… but my neihbor is a retired Marine/Army (He was in both) and he plays the Microsoft XBOX with some game where he is a ground infantry guy fighting the germans. He plays with other folks all over the country and he wears a head set and communicates with them as a part of a team. The opponants are real folks as well, not computer generated.
He says that this is as close to real deal as you get without joining, and he is pretty much addicted to it. I tried to do it one time and could not learn to walk properly. I got frustrated and gave up very quickly.
I could see how playing the games in a team setting and communicating with your mates could help you do better once you got into the service… you would have some clue as too what the military is trying to get you to do. It’s not for me, I hate the damn controller deal. Stupid.
He covered that in the lecture as well. I wasn’t planning on reading that particular book because I’m not all that interested in the relationship to school shootings and video games. Is there anything in it about first responder action, or is it just a slam against first person shooters for making kids better shots?
Adam
Well shit. I play a lot of FPS and I still am not a great shot. It must be because I haven’t played enough lately.
I guess we will have to get a M4C Modern Warfare 2 clan set up to help us train.
unless the game somehow accurately simulates marksmanship, AND the control machanism is a weapon replica- video games are of absolutely zero benefit. i doubt they even improve hand-eye coordination. maybe thumb-eye coordination.
if moving your fingers around really fast did anything for marksmanship or tactics, Delta would recruit office secretaries.
Sims and games make for great training aids, but in no way replace actual practice and hands-on. The best they can hope to do is allow for an accellerated learning curve when the individual does do the stuff for real.
Think of it like dry-firing. Is it of value to the shooter for fundamentals? Absolutely. Is it the same as shooting? Absolutely not.
I still love COD4, too, and can’t stop replaying that Spooky stage over and over again like a doofus.
I have played a lot of FPS games not all but most COD is probable the worst has far as trying to use as a simulator :eek: I tell you why before I get the mud flying nobody plays with the friendly fire mode on , continuous spawns and a sorry frag kill radius all this leads to mindless rushing:rolleyes: You play Americas Army it is a totally different experience frags have a kill radius the friendly fire is on and you only have one your 1 life and this leads to more use of tactics and team work than COD.
Just like real training the more life like you can get it the better you can learn.
Just my.02 cents