Well despite being a vocal complainer about polymer mags (specifically the nigthmares I have of the CF issue Thermold C7/8 mags) However I have been running a Glock for a while - and our Sig552’s have polymer mags so - obviously it is possible to build a good one.
A lot of fuss has been made of the Magpul PMag (which I can only guess stands for polymer mag).
So I looked around to find some online and had them shipped out (I’m still in Iraq).
So they arrive and looked good – I quickly stocked them up with Mk262 Mod1. They seem to function fine - however I have had some durablity doubt about polymer in a M16FOW mag – so with that in mind and inspired by the Magpul test videos – I decided to run one over with the B6 Suburban – to get the idea of weight - its a 2500 series Burb with a factory B6 Armor package - a 3 ton jack will not lift the damn thing to do a tire change - you need at least a 5 ton or the thing wont budge.
Secondly most testing had been done of EMPTY mags – (I have my guesses as to why) but an empty mag reliability test really does not do much for me – since I am concernd about the mag when its loaded - empty its no good to me.
so 28rds of Mk262 Mod1 in a PMag–meets Suburban.
Standby
and it survives – no rounds even get popped out.
Not satisfied - I get the driver to reverse back over the mag
crunch heard – well so much for the PMAG
or not
one round ejected - not exactly the 30rd “burst” I expected.
The mag’s spine has been cracked – but it does not appear to be a catostrophic failure – thus I decided – well will it work?
Well it shoots…
As you can see minor case deformation occured on the rounds in the mag while it was run over.
and the mag ran during several drills – ejected easily - and never caused a hickup – reloaded and used 4 times after it cracked…
KevinB,
nice test. Hope you and your guys are alright. Let’s talk gear. What are you running over there? What scope is that? what stock, grip, VFG, Light, barrel, and rail. What barrel length for in and out of the Burb all day long? Are you running a sling?
I believe the scope is a S&B Short Dot. Stock looks like a CTR VFG looks like a TD and possibly a 16" barrel also looks like he is running a Redi-Mag setup. This is all just my observation and Kevin feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
Alex – yeah its a PKM – we are not cool enough to get a M240
Too All
I think the test was a little overboard – but I was curious if the ammuntion would be crushed beyond use, or if it would cause the mag to splinter.
Weapon in question
KAC SR16 URX Midlength upper
Douglas 1:7 barrel Wylde Chamber
KAC 600m BIS (with 300m BIS large aperature)
Larue 1.93 height mount
S&B SHort Dot Gen II
RediMag Gen II
KAC Vert grip
Vickers sling
Magpul CTR
GG&G Sling stud thing
DD Flashlight mount and Surefire G2
GG&G Rear single point sling plate (ambi - yeah not really my choice)
I dont want to get too off the PMAG issue – but in a car done up the way we have ours - the 16" middy works fine – While I had shot people with short barrels - I prefer to hedge my bets and use a 16" Barrel when I can.
I really enjoyed looking at that and I love the rifle.
I have 4 Pmags now plan on getting 6 more and some more aluminum. I dont like SS mags but that is just me.
Are you a PSD memeber? Just wondering because I was doing some of that stuff as well as convoy. I hate it when Generals or Colonels want to stop and take pictures.
Me: “Sir this is not a safe place.”
General or Colonel: “But there are camels or goats over there that my kids will like to see.”
KevinB,
Thanks for the information on your set up. Looks Rugged. Sorry for Hijack, but thanks for the reply.
Now to turn it back to Pmag, do they fit in all the pouches and come in and out the same as USGI aluminum mags?
Stay Safe,
Jack
I’m not in the Army anymore, it is strict PSD for a US gov’t entity though.
I had not troubles getting PMags into my paraclete pouches - I just check a few others - and they are tight to insert but easily workable in TT or ESSTAC shingles.
Thanks for the test and the pics. They brought back some memories of my time there…only thing missing was the smell of a line of crappers in the hot sun!
Good stuff, thanks for sharing it. There are some people who will bitch regardless of what they see or read, or who it comes from, however, those are the people who aren’t running a gun anyway.
– but thanks.
