What is the deal with this gun???
It was actually in the hands of a shooting victim here last week. I am guessing he got it from a gun show or something. I am not a homicide detective so I dont know all the details…i.e. if it was registered to him or not.
The funny thing is…
one of the homicide detectives said…“he was still holding an ‘assault’ rifle…”
I just shook my head and let it go.
That’s that junk novelty folding .223 carbine isn’t it?
I think it’s the pistol version.
My buddy’s got one of the foldy-rifles. Neat concept, poor excecution. First time out, cartridge got stuck in the chamber. Actually, I think it still is (2 years later).
yeah, i saw that in the newspaper and informed everybody in lineup about it. it may suck, but i dont like the idea of 30 .223 rounds concealed under somebodys coat. shoot or not, i wouldnt take those odds.
Yeah, this is the pistol…no stock.
It is amazing that you can have a 30 round .223 short barrel firearm with no stock and not have to have a stamp or anything.
I dont know where he got it from or anything, but he had a usgi mag filled up with .223.
Brilliant logic isn’t it? Although some might say we shouldn’t have to put stamps on any of our toys eh? 
You guys have registration in Arkansas?
I’m glad somebody said it. His “concealable” rifle didn’t help him out much, and it would ban a whole lot of ak’s and other guns that most of us own that have never, and will never be involved in a crime.
I have one and it runs like a champ. Changed the extractor out from the POS and installed a 5coil spring and black insert.
No, speaking of atf regulations.
I mean no disrespect in asking but, why do you believe that one should be required to have a stamp (or infringement depending on your perspective) to possess such a concealable weapon?
Do you feel the same way about any other guns?
I just want to better understand your perspective.
Let me try to go back a little.
I am not saying that we “should” have stamps on anything we own. What I am saying is that with the restrictions being as tight as they are on our toys, it is hard to believe that this one is not restricted in some way.
I am with DemiGod on this when I say that I wish all the stamps and regulations could go away for those of us that are responsible and law abiding gun owners.
Does that explain it a little better?
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I’ve gotcha now.
Its a pistol!
I understand that.
A pistol that shoots 30 .223 rounds out of a short rifle barrel.
Dont get me wrong, I am not saying it should be restricted, just surprised that you can take a stock off of a sbr and the govt. not try to restrict it.
And yes, I know that this is not just the stock taken off of an sbr…just sayin…
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Even dumber. If I make mine longer by adding a stock to it, I have to register it for $200!! If I add a VFG to it, I also have to register it (as an AOW) for $5.
It’s just the lack of common sense from those who write our laws.
I dunno, I kinda like the idea of one as a “truck gun” for when the gang-banger is kindly requesting you to get out of your car from the driver’s window. Load a 20-round mag with 62 or 55 grain Federal bonded JSP, hide it, call it a day. I’ve never heard any review on how the “pistol” actually runs, though, or if it runs at all. I just think it looks cool and it’d scare the shit out of said gang-banger.
-B
Guns aren’t for scaring people. (says the guy who has had a DGU sans trigger pull) but seriously, regardless of whether it is a Bushmaster, AMD65 or Krink derived, PLR, or Contender pistol . . . there is no reason rifle caliber pistols need to be regulated more strictly than a .454 or .500 S&W. More regulation is NOT the right answer.
I would of course like a link to whatever the media did with the incident. Didn’t hear about it up here.
I disagree. Scaring an individual is a very important step in the force continuum!!
That was a little tongue in cheek. Like I said, I have had a DGU in which I didn’t pull the trigger. The man standing in my front room in the wee hours of the a.m. elected to believe his crack dealer no longer had a room upstairs where my family was sleeping. . . . only when I indicated that failing to leave and/or forcing his way further in, would involve copious steam cleaning and maybe some spackle;) but he would not be making it out except the way he came in. No other language was getting it. I said “no” “nobody here by that name” “leave” “leave now!” “he doesn’t live here” . . . at various volumes in various orders but those five statements repeated & he gave every indication of intending to push further into the house. I figured I knew he was armed with something, as he had to have had something to pry the window. Sure enough, very large screwdriver in the back pocket when he turned to leave. I drew because he wasn’t getting with my verbal commands, I was sure he was armed, I didn’t know if he had backup, I knew I had a wife and baby upstairs. So, there is that whole story.
That said, I don’t believe scare is in the continuum of force. The point of drawwing is rather to prepare to fire. If that scares them and you don’t have to fire, great, awesome, ideal! But that isn’t the reason to draw. Drawwing to scare is a great way to catch a lawsuit, or get sacked by a liberal D.A. and get your ability to handle firearms stripped. Drawwing to scare is a great example of what might seem reasonable to you or me, but sound like Felony Making Terroristic Threats to a gov’t attorney that doesn’t like that you can own the toys you own.