What would you rate a KSG shotgun from 1-10?
10 being the biggest POS.:suicide2:
1 being the best mall nija tacticool shotgun to hit the market.:dance3:
i would give it at least a 13
i saw their guy who invented it at rock castle last year. he was on our squad. knew him by phone. he helped me sbr a su-16. he designed it also. great piece of kit. sent me some parts to run it 101%.
k.s.g. ,biggest p.o.s i ever saw. never finished a stage. on 2ND day he used my spare 1100. so he could get thru a stage.
u couldn’t run fast enough to give me 1.
after every stage there was at least a 1-1/2hr lag. we would go to the practice range. shoot it, ran fine.
take it to the next stage, threw up,gagged ,what ever.
we use 7 kinds of ammo. i only had 2 . mooched form everyone including steve hornaday. cross gun is an engineer, (my running buddy.) ran Horton cross bows. designed 90% of the bows till he started his own company. he couldn’t fix it. WORSE. HE DIDNTknow where to start. . this guy has always fixed any glitch we had.
the guy came from factory to trial l it. worst thing he could do. didn’t run. had no spare. bad arena to fail in.
good luck
jjw
Just wondering why people are paying $1200 to $2500 for this gadget.
I’ll stick with my Wilson Combat 870 12" SBS &
S-12 8"SBS.
Thinking of getting a Mossberg 590A1 14" next.
I have run a few rounds out of one at my agency range. If you can imagine how an unlubricated mossberg 500 feels after you throw a handful of sand in the action, that’s how it felt while working the slide. you couldn’t give me one.
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For the record, let that be a 1. 
Polymer bullpup next to my face, from a company not known for producing consistent quality long guns? Pass.
You gave it a 1 but will pass.
Owning one, I will say that a VFG makes a world of difference in racking it. its a novel concept, and a fantastic size, however, mine is experiencing the same problem many others on the KTOG forum are reporting, where it will sometimes fail to extract a spent shell and try to feed a new round into the chamber.
Love, hate it, I will say this, Keltec is responding to it pretty quickly and seems eager to make it 100% for me, and I appreciate their communication. We’ll see if it gets fixed.
I think the idea is brilliant, obviously the execution leaves something to be desired given the experiences here.
In the sample of 1 that I’ve seen/used for a brief period it ran well. It’s not terribly unwieldy, and despite being a bit heavy (especially loaded) it’s compact size doesn’t make it too hard to move around. Recoil isn’t too bad, either.
That being said I treat every Kel Tec product as if it will unexpectedly and spectacularly fail at the worst possible moment. Plus market value is way to high right now, I’d say it’s a $600 shotgun at best. Maybe $800…
I’ve had terrible luck with Kel Tec products, and have seen a number of them puke as well. In fact, that KSG I used is about the only KT product I can think of that I’ve seen that didn’t fuck up. Hell, my P32 broke the mag release about 10 rounds in…had to replace it with a steel one :rolleyes:
So, which one came first, chicken or egg?
Neither, the Neostad predates them both.
The concept was great! The gun is utter garbage! The durability on that thing is like a cheapo walmart airsoft gun. You can find a ton of reports of people snapping the rail off when they put a fore grip on it and many have had feeding issues with it. Recoil magazine did an article on it and complained that it kicked like a mule.
Way too many cons to make me buy that gun.
PASS same boat as cheap airsoft guns
POS 10 for sure usually OP people grade the exact opposite
So for me to get rid of my Glock 22 RMR’D w/ Trijicon Suppressor NS, Surefire X300 and 4 mags would be a dumb ass move.
I should keep my Glock and forget about the KSG.
The Winter SWATRIPLEX came first followed by the Neostead shotguns. John Winters shotgun was a semiauto feeding from two mag tubes under the barrel in the 70’s was a US design. Other than some prototypes it never saw production, and I have been looking for additional info off and on for some time.
Consortium W (Winter) SWATriplex-18 prototype 12-gauge semi-automatic combat shotgun
Designed in the late 1970s specifically as a combat shotgun by John W Winter, the SWATriplex-18 had a number of unusual features, some of which appeared in later shotguns. Unfortunately, the company which was supposed to manufacture the weapon (Consortium W), pulled out after only a few prototypes were built and Winter was never able to attract anyone else to manufacture, let alone buy his unusual shotgun.
The SWATriplex-18 used a semi-bullpup design using twin tubular magazines under a single barrel. Feed could be from one magazine at a time, or alternately between the right and left magazines. Operation was semiautomatic, using gas operation and something quite unusual in a shotgun, a telescoping bolt. Construction was with a combination of light alloys and steel (for the barrel and where strength was critical). The 22-inch barrel was surrounded by a shroud/handguard which was ventilated for cooling. The SWATriplex-18 has ejection ports on both sides of the weapon; each could be sealed, and this allowed use of the weapon by both left and right-handed shooters by simply reversing the ejection direction, charging handle, and cheek rest (something most designers of bullpup weapons seem to overlook). The SWATriplex-18 used rifle-type sights on raised stands; both were adjustable for elevation and windage by knobs. (The raised sights were thought of as a potential problem, and Winter reputedly was considering either removable sights or moving the sights down to the receiver itself.) The stock was of light alloy, but the butt was synthetic with a rubber recoil pad. The top of the receiver had a carrying handle which could be folded flat against the receiver if desired.
The SWATriplex-18 was most likely a design which was way ahead of its time; many companies thought it was simply too weird-looking to sell, despite its reliability and advanced features. This may have killed the SWATriplex-18 more than anything else. Unfortunately, even the prototypes seem to have disappeared, and examples of the weapon now exist only on paper. However, the SWATriplex-18 design can be credited of a modern spawning as can surely have been a source of inspiration for the South-African designers Tony Neophytou and Heyns Stead for their highly successful Truvelo NS-2000 “NeoStead” pump-action combat shotgun
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The Hans Stead’s design featured two mag tubes above the barrel in the 80’s from South Africa. Truvelo has had the Neostead in low rate production for years, but Hans has not been able to find a US partner to produce them here. We went through the process once with a US producer, but they decided eventualy not to produce it. They have done the home work though, so maybe the new trends will make them relook the issue.
Keep the Glock and forget the Keltec
funny my KSG is going strong over 2200 rounds a few hicups with wally world bulk winchester ammo…
Ill keep mine
Are there any revs as production trickles on? I’ve heard they either run great or puke. Seems a brand new product like this with field testing from the first batch of buyers should generate enough user feedback on issues which should get fixed on subsequent productions. I was unsuccessful in finding any threads which might document this.
Seems typical of keltec. Good innovation, poor execution. I’ll stick to my 870. Sad because I really like the concept and size.
Omg, yes! KEEP your setup. Something better will come up soon.