so whats the deal I’ve talked to people who say the mams are not available to the civilian market because Mr. Knight is not happy with it.
and yet its available on the military catalog??? Is the civilian market more important or what??? is this the crappy way of lying to customers ? or are is knights not going to release the mams until all of the Triple taps are sold Whats the real word don’t really like being lied to
Unless you’ve talked to someone from KAC directly, of which there are plenty on this board, your information is shoddy at best. Let’s not become like TOS and start senselessly jumping to conclusions and getting all butthurt, ok?
The folks from KAC have repeatedly told people that the military side is the primary focus, as they have standing contracts to fulfill. They release stuff to the civilian side, like the SR-15 factory SBRs, when they have enough time to ensure quality and gauge the interest in the marketplace. It isn’t that you’re being lied to. It’s that, no, the civilian side isn’t more important.
Instead of getting your knickers in a twist, take a step back and do the big boy thing and make a phone call or shoot an email to KAC directly. Get the answers from the horse’s mouth.
Unless III, Kevin or Casey want to say something here, I see no reason for this to remain open.
Honor First
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Agree. The tenor of this post is enough to warrant closure. We will gladly reopen it if any KAC personnel wish to comment, but we aren’t going to allow a conversation to develop based upon the opening premises in this one.
AC
Some 762 MAMS have been shipped to the government.
However the focus has been on Flash mitigation currently, and little forward moment on muzzle devices other than Flash Suppressors are being acquired.
The 5.56mm MAMS is still being worked on, and so that is not available to anyone; government or not. We had a bunch of protoypes however for various reasons those designs where internally deemed not to be suitable for government usage.
Part of the issue with commercial sales of the MAMS at this time is that competitors have routinely bought our items, from rails, sights, guns etc. and made their own version of them for pennies on our R&D dollars.
Now when we find a cost effective method of manufacturing the MAMS, then we will offer it for sale (assuming we can get the results we are happy with, in a economical method of manufacture).
At this time the MAMS we have made have been effectively multi thousand dollar items and we have lost a ton of money on.
Now for the government we often do programs like this with the hope that the spin off on a major order will return on our IRD spending.
I’m the guy who adds or subtracts stuff from our price sheet, and its not there to tease or ignore the commercial purchaser.
I just wanted to give you the ‘from the coal face’ here at KAC.