This.
If you can remove and replace a wheel on your vehicle, you can replace a barrel.
Noveske would most likely be the best source of what they will or will not do.
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I’d rather a 6920 16” carbine than anything Noveske makes.[/QUOTE]
Gotta go with that.
Really?
I guess I should call CLE up and ask them for my money back from the last time they cut chambers for me to fit the bolts I provided…
Will also add that the OP bought a stainless match barrel from Noveske. No personal experience with their match barrels but I would venture to guess that they will be a little better than any random 6920 barrel from Colt as far as accuracy is concerned. May not last as long but that is the price you pay for greater accuracy sometimes.
A 6920 is not near an apples to apples comparison to a good quality SS, match grade barrel.
Thank You all for the information and opinions.
Noveske got back to me by a quick detailed email.
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The SS barrel will last a good while. The person at Noveske told me he has on with 10,000 rounds and is still very accurate.
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They don’t do barrel swaps right now because they are very busy.
Minus a couple hang ups, I think I can do a barrel swap when the time comes. I have lots of the equipment and just bought a Noveske barrel wrench for good measure.
Honesty, I have only fired about 10,000 rounds on my own rifle - which I am not about to retire.
The new SS will outlive me, no doubt.
I actually received it today. It was as great if not better than I hoped. I’m really glad to have it in my collection and have since put it into storage.
The CHF from the same dealer will arrive in a couple days. It will go into the collection as well.
I’m really glad to own this upper, now.
All this talk about barrels got me excited and I bought a few barrels from another source that are CHF 10.5".
Money in the bank as far as I am concerned.
My next purchase will be a CMMG Banshee for my SBR. I’ll be having some fun shooting 22, soon.
I should be GTG with that before the fall for some foliage time shooting when the weather gets cooler.
In the mean time, my new acquisitions will be a valued addition to my collection.
I would urge people to place orders for guns and uppers from your favorite manufactures through dealers which should hold your spot.
The backlog for some stuff if over a year so you can save up in the mean time.
Either that or pay a premium if you want it now.
Thank You!
I bought a CHF rifle from Noveske while John was alive along with building a few stainless SBR’s with their NSR rail and have been very impressed. Both the CHF and Stainless are tack drivers if I do my part, but they clearly favor a 62-77gr over 55gr whether craptastic->range->match ammo. Stainless is <MOA, while CHF is just over MOA at 100 with irons for me, but I would think a better shooter could improve upon that.
Price on the other hand is somewhat misleading as I’ve paid more for worse but never less for better. From a barrel wearing out standpoint 10K for stainless or way more for CHF is a lot of shooting over a long period of time for me and $7k+ at current prices. If the time comes I’d say I got my moneys worth.
Shoot them and enjoy.
God Bless John!
I have two from his time.
$7,000 is enough money to put me in a Jeep Wrangler if added to my next car fund. Or, even a Bronco.
I shoot enough to stay sharp but as things are right now - I just want to own hardware without blowing too much ammo.
It’s Younger Women, faster Horses 
,more money 
It’s a barrel
Im not reading through this thread but your saying you pretty much went to the spearmint rhino, got a private dance and are complaining about it afterwards
I think its closer to he reserved a private dance with the blonde at spearmint rhino then heard the brunette there is a freak but she is gone for a week and he is regretting not waiting for her. Still hasn’t gotten the dance but has lots of money to pay for it.
I could be wrong, of course. He lost me worrying about barrel life on a gun he doesn’t plan to shoot, then he doubled down asking if he could pay Noveske to install a new barrel after he wears out the first without shooting it.
I heard a guy with the capital police read this thread and killed himself but I don’t have confirmation.
Andy
Oh man thats funny! Its a…different kinda post, for sure.
This is an awesome post.
Noveske used to do special order/ custom work, but it wasn’t a cost effective use of time. I believe it was stopped and not restarted.
When was the last time you wore out the barrel on a personal weapon? Any weapon for that matter?
Why would you only trust Noveske to install a new barrel?
On a side note, $200 over MSRP? What dealer are we talking about?
Your knowledge base is lacking. Seriously.
If you are lucky, the manufacturer/ assembler checks barrel headspace, but not all do. In addition, to clarify your above comment, if the barrel and bolt combo is no good, the bolt is typically thrown back in the bucket and another bolt is grabbed. Tolerance stacking means what doesn’t fit right with one may be perfect with another.
LMAO. Best response ever
Actually its more like this: Saw a 10/10 chick on Instagram or FB, is actually a 6/10 in real life. Agreed to overpay for one night, takes her out to dinner and buys her jewelry never intending to get in the sack with her. Then asks where she would like to go dinner for a second date.
Please feel free to share your experiences and correct me where I’m wrong.
If someone has published a comparison I would be very interested in reading it out of curiosity.
You have some relationship with BCM, Centurion Arms (and maybe even Noveske) and they both sell CHF and SS barrels. I, as many others, would be interested to know the feedback on a usable service life.
How many rounds does it take for a well-made SS vs CHF AR barrel to go to say 5 MOA?
I would be curious what you got wrong as well. Cause from doing some reading at the Noveske website just now it seems as though you were spot on with respect to their SS barrels.
I really be concerned about Stainless vs CHF. Noveske barrels are really, really good. Unlike CHF, their stainless steel barrels have proprietary chamber and some special rifling (can’t recall the details now) which should make it both extremely durable and accurate.
I would much rather get barrel from a known reputable manufacturer than focus on the marketing lingo of process (CHF or whatever) or specific coatings and have it sway my decision towards a so-so brand.I’ve never seen any real-life comparison that indicates that stainless steel barrels are somehow inferior to CHF in terms of durability. On the other hand, there are a few posts comparing accuracy, and typically stainless Noveske barrels are more accurate than their CHF barrels and a lot more accurate than many typical AR brands.
From Noveske website:
Our stainless barrels are made to fill a precision role while retaining flawless function. Retaining accuracy and reliability is a complicated balance in that the chamber needs to be slightly modified from the NATO specifications to improve bullet hook-up in the throat, while keeping to functional properties of the NATO body dimensions. The result is our proprietary Noveske chambering. The steel used is a type of 416R and hardened to about 30 HRC prior to any machining. These barrels are button rifled with our proprietary PT buttons. This rifling profile differs from that in the chrome lined barrel line in that the lands have a slightly more trapezoidal shape. This design and the type of stainless used helps the lead edge of the rifling from eroding as fast as it might with conventional rifling, and the barrels tend to outlast others. For use in any precision application, we recommend the stainless barrel for its edge in accuracy and excellent reliability.
The chambering that Noveske does to their SS barrels sounds a LOT like what CLE does with their special CLE chambering.
Perhaps we don’t have a lot of guys here that shoot out of anything but honked out 5.56 Nato chambers?
That stuff does make a difference with respect to accuracy…
I never wore out a rifle.
Having Noveske work on my rifles is a special thing to me. Just like many people treasure the rifles that John personally had a hand in making.
If I had a Porsche, I would only want a Porsche dealer touching it. I would not take it to the local garage on the corner.
I have read about one of the pins on the gas black is particularly tough for some folks.
I’d rather have a pro do it than mar the finish with a hammer.
The dealer was on GunBroker and was the only dealer with this upper in stock.
I don’t want people to think he is a bad guy because he sold it to me for the market price.
I would be enlightened to know of dealers selling uppers for MSRP in this day and age.
I talked to Noveske and asked them to recommend stocking dealers and the man they told me about put my other uppers on order and there is a 9 month wait.
Considering that now the wait is 12 months, I sure would not blame a dealer for selling for a premium.
He is doing me a favor because if it were less it would have sold out. And, I would prefer to pay a premium and actually have it in hand rather than wait another year.
No dealer would sell for MSRP right now for something that was not spoken for.
If they did, the buyer would flip it for a nice profit.
If you happen to know any such dealers, I’d be happy to clean out there stock and flip them myself.