Just bought a DD M4 - great deal! Questions...

Just bought a Daniel Defense M4 w/ gunfighter CH, Ergo grip and Magpul stock and 13 Pmags for $800! I just wanted to share with someone who could appreciate. I have several AR’s and haven’t been in the market, so I am not sure where prices are currently, but I saw this and it just seemed way cheap. Gun doesn’t appear to have hardly been fired!

Seems like such good deal I kept thinking, what am I missing? Upper and lower has been professionally cerakote OD green, so I can see the DD roll mark on the lower, but can’t see the DD name on the upper, but its a full auto bolt, keys are staked (although less aggressively than others I have), marked HP and MP but no DD markings on the bolt? I’ve heard the earlier bolts didn’t have DD markings? I’ve never had a DD rifle before.

Thoughts? I’m pretty dang happy to add it to the safe and very pleased with the deal.

I wonder when DD stopped using Cerro Forge for their upper receivers? Have you looked to see if the barrel is stamped yet?

Regardless, it looks pretty good!

Rascal

If guns kill people, why do people go to prison for the crime…?

The DD marks disappear with fairly quickly with use but the early ones weren’t marked HPT/MPI not so sure about whether the early ones had DD on the side or not. You might want to just make sure the chamber is 5.56 using a good old Ned Christiansen chamber gauge since that will put some ease of mind into this purchase. If it’s a real DD then you did get a heck of a deal on it.

Yes, it says “DD 4150 MP 5.56 NATO 1/7”

800 dollars is a hell of a deal!

Not so sure that’s a DD BCG. Staking not right. No DD laser etched into side of bolt carrier. Could be wrong.

Every DD BCG I’ve seen in the past 3 years has had DD laser etched into the carrier and the bolt is not marked. This bolt is marked and I’ve never seen a DD bolt that was.

Great score Cazwell!

Lower looks to be a low SN. Definitely pre '08. Later uppers had the DD logo in the upper left hand corner but the lines on your receiver look like DD. DD bolts in this time frame didn’t have the DD logo on them so it’s hard to tell if the bolt is original.

Regardless I’m jealous as hell. I had quite a few DD rifles before my tragic boating accident and I’m a DD fanboy. Great price on a great tool that will serve you well.

Yep. Mine is marked on the carrier and the bolt is not marked at all.

My lower says Black Creek, not Savannah. Not sure if that’s something or not.

Looks like it is an old school DD. Hell of a deal to be sure.

Thanks. The seller seemed legit, nice guy, local, we’ve even purchased from the same dealer. He said it was one of the very early rifles, and is all stock other than the CH handle and grip. I’m inclined to believe him after meeting him and chatting, but was definitely curious what you all thought. I’ve wanted a Daniel Defense rifle since they very first released the original DD M4. I have a colt and a Vltor MUR build, but when I saw this for so cheap, with the mags included, I just had to do it.

Any ideas how to ID the bolt?

I bought a DD Ambush in Dec 2012, and the BC is not etched. According to a DD rep I spoke with, this was a deliberate policy at that time. He also indicated that they were reconsidering thst policy. My bolt is not marked.

Sounds and looks legit. To be 100% just order a DD bolt & carrier and keep the one you got as a backup. The family and I have put well over 50K round through ours and we love them.

The last backup DD BCG’s I got were etched. None of my earlier carriers were etched and none of my bolts were marked.

Even if everything is authentic except the bcg, it’s still a steal! Congrats.

Staking is practically non-existent. Easy Fix tho.

I think you got ripped off. I will give you $801 for it. :smiley:

I hope you replaced a few parts along the way. :confused:

Dang, I thought I had an early one at serial ~10xx, that one is early.

Looks just about like mine. No DD markings anywhere, but the roll mark.

I dont think my bolt is marked at all, but I would have to pull my gun apart and check it out. My staking is definitely better than that. The BCG may NOT be the original, but that hardly matters.

I wouldnt let mine go for that cheap thats for damn sure.

Think of it this way, when that lower alone shows up for sale it’s usually for 500 or 600 alone on this site(complete) that’s a major score on your part.

Congrats