Just became disappointed with M4Carbine.net

I’ve been through all the forums during the last 3 months and have come to respect the posters on M4Carbine.net over any others. I bought my first EBR, a Noveske 16" midlength, due in large part to the opinions I found here. The level of discourse here is far superior to anything else I’ve seen in similar arenas…

That being said I, merely by chance, came across a few posts concerning Alex Jones (I won’t bother listing his media outlets). The immediate, unquestioned, and unarticulated slams I read are very close to those I hear from the bottom-of-the-barrel, low-level thinking people I encounter in my every day life.

Alex Jones is a hard pill to swallow. It has taken me years to come around to the point of being able to even stomach much of the information he puts into the discussion. I have come know that most of what he puts out is fact driven, usually just media sources and FOIA material. Truth or not, it is still fact.

His opinions on the information he puts out and the analysis he comes up with is his own and is subject to the scrutiny of us all. However, when a man keeps fighting against what he fears is a domestically based, outright enemy of all free people of the UNITED STATES for all of his adult life (he’s around 33 or 34 years old and has been at it for 15 plus years) it’s a shame to me when he’s merely dismissed as a “whacko”, “psycho-talker”, whatever. We hear that type of rhetoric used all day by media figures and others who just try to minimize and silence those opinions. Those people know that people generally fear being associated with others who may be seen as undesirable. It’s easy and it’s quick, but it gets nobody any closer to discussion, wisdom, or the ablility to react.

I suspect many of the posters here are current or ex-military. I am neither. I also suspect that anyone who is part of an organization takes unkindly to others who question the righteousness of the organization or its members. I have listened to Alex Jones bring to the air all types of dire information concerning the Federal government, state & local governments, international government/financial institutions and the military; relating it to his analysis of the government/military/industrial complex and the unnatural control placed into the hands of, or seized by, individuals outright. He, as well as myself, and I guess most of you reading this also have your own concerns over the “state of things”. We live in very dangerous times, never moreso than the present, I believe. In my opinion, just as much as we NEED, and I mean need, our men and women to be warriors…WE NEED men like Alex Jones to help clear the very dirty and unquestionably controlled air.

This is my first post, if it gets me kicked off this site…I guess I’ve said…

Can someone give me a cliff notes version? The Makers Mark in the glass next to me is having its usual effect on my attention span.

Maybe I’m just stupid, looks like posts helping him got the threads locked on this site https://www.m4carbine.net/search.php?searchid=1285832 :confused:

So the problem is what exactly?

This ‘General Discussion’ forum gets weirder and weirder.

-Sorry, didn’t realize that there were posts about him. I’ve never heard of him before.

1 post…and a SPECTACULAR contribution.

Thanks so much, OP.

:cool:

And M4Carbine just became disappointed with you.

By the way, who is Alex Jones?

So you’re disappointed in the entire forum because a few members have an unfavorable opinion of someone? Are those members not allowed to voice their opinion regardless of whether or not you agree with it?

By the same token why would you think we’d lock your account because you stated your opinion? Somehow you think that a few people speak for the entire forum AND you think we don’t allow people to say anything negative?

You can stay but if this is the way you think this place runs I’m going to go out on a limb and say this place might not be for you.

By the way I don’t even know who Alex Jones his so if the forum has disappointed you it should be because we’ve never heard of him :smiley:

Honestly dude…just let it go. Everybody’s got different opinions, even among the fairly like-minded group of folks here. Stick to the technical forums where the good info is…

Who’s Alex Jones?

The hell with Alex Jones. Who is Keyser Soze?

If you have to ask, it’s not worth knowing.

That’s just it-- Alex Jones is Keyser Soze!

My thought too

I think it’s this guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)

Needless to say, I can see why he is termed a wacko.

ETA. For some reason my link isn’t working(I’m not good at computers). Just search alex jones and sleect the radio host entry on wikipedia to find him.

Art Bell > Alex Jones

  • I guess he is involved with/made this film: straight off Wikipedia: * The Obama Deception (2009) (Video)

The film claims Obama’s real agenda is the opposite of what he promised during the campaign. The film claims Wall Street engineered the financial collapse in order to “repo the country” and that Obama is a front-man used by “the elite” to serve their agenda. It claims Obama has broken his campaign promises by sending more troops to Afghanistan, appointed numerous “finance oligarchs” and lobbyists to high government positions, reauthorized the Patriot Act first enacted by the Bush administration, and wants to create a “civilian national security force” to further militarize the country. The film makes a controversial comparison between Barack Obama and Adolf Hitler’s ascent to power.[citation needed]

hmmm…seems like he’s onto something. just sayin’ :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J2W7gFzChM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDtfKNRTY-Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEf4uGKgeXU

I’m not at all going to try and be a wiseguy. Like I said earlier, I have come to respect a lot the opinions here. I recognize some of your names.

Like M4arc said maybe I should be disappointed because you guys have not even heard of him. I guess that’s very true. It wasn’t really disappointed because of the few negative things I read on those very few posts, it was that the posts went unanswered, nobody had anything to say. Now I get it, you guys haven’t heard of him so you haven’t heard him.

I did get a bit from here that I expect from the THS too. The majority of the first responses were little funny comments, busting my balls for posting, not looking at the issue. Even the one guy listed the Wikipedia listing with no info. Does Wikipedia fall into a non-political, stone cold responsible source? If so, then that’s just whatever it is…

Whatever, atleast m4tographer knows who Art Bell is. Aside from the extraterrestrial and out-of-body experience shows, Art Bell was one of the few who would get into some really important subjects.

No hate for you posters, maybe a few of you find some new info as well.

I’m in except for the parts you can’t prove, like the Wall Street conspiracy and front man thing. What makes this guy so special?

Oh buddy I have no clue who this Alex Jones guy is lol… I just found that movie title description interesting, if anything. I am one who believes something “fishy” is going on with this nation (*read-not the usual political bs), like this Gent that the OP is talking about.