I have an article in this upcoming SWAT. If you subscribe you should already have it in fact. The article is about our carbine matches and is called “Build a Match from Scratch” and begins on Page 74.
Let me know what you think.
I’ll have to get my wife to go to Barnes and Noble to get my monthly dose of gun porn.
Just got it in the mail last week. I look forward to reading your article, Rob.
I look forward to reading it but after the last couple issues it is getting harder and harder to stomach buying it. I don’t know what has happened to them lately but it used to be the best gun related mag. Now they have sunk to reviewing concealable swords and charter arms revolvers.
Meh…
I wont renew my sub after it runs out.
I’m looking forward to reading the article. My local club puts on a monthly carbine match and the director has been looking for others to step up and run a few here and there so he can concentrate on competing in a match instead of running them. Hopefully this will help me come up with a few ideas to get a match up & running.
Sorely disappointed there was no tactical yellow visor to be seen…
yeah. the only pic of me was from a match when I thought the visor was lost for all time!
I very much liked the idea of the mandatory orientation and qualification; get shooters familiar with the match commands and rules (as well as give the RSOs a chance to observe the shooters). My group encourages new shooters to observe a match before participating, but the orientation is an excellent idea.
Good article Rob. A “diamond in the rough” as of late with SWAT.
I guess some have not gotten the memo.
Until SQUAT Mag gets real factual articles I’ll just read it occasionally when some decent articles are written at the stands.
They FAIL miserably to meet my standards for being honest and straight up.
Not into the some of the phonies and their Bravco Sierra claims. Free gear Whorriors imo.
I can get BS’ed anywhere for free w/o the insult of spending my money.
Too many frauds spoil the good ones there.
nuff said.
And yes, I have seen the DOCS etc…
Too bad the TRUTH is so difficult for some people these days…
To each their own…
Interesting thing has come out of instituting the Q&O:
shooters that don’t gripe, come out and run through the process, and go through their first match typically understand why we do the Q&O and thank us for it. shooters that bitch and moan, think they are above it, etc. typically are so unsafe that they don’t even make it through the whole Q&O!
The single biggest reason we do the Q&O is to expose people to the 4 rules of safe gun handling. The second biggest reason is to get eyes on them when performing a transition to pistol to see if they can do so safely. The Q begins with a simple “load and make ready”, progresses through emergency and tac-loads and getting in and out of basic positions, finishing up with the transition. We typically know if someone is going to be a problem before we ever get to the transition.
nice work ! i look forward to your future articles .
So how are you guys mitigating the legal liability for something like this? Does your club have enough insurance to handle any kind of litigation in case of injury?
Kudos for requiring mandatory Q&O for all shooters. I started a “Tactical Shooters Group” at my club last year around a core group of experienced shooters. But the huge liability that comes with running any shooting event had convinced me to limit the event to club members only.
Our events aren’t as much as competition but was meant to allow like-minded individuals to run through the drills we learned from attending Tactical Courses in order to maintain our skills and build cameradere. But after the announcement of the group was made (to club members) people started asking us questions that eventually led to our decision to disband the group and just hold informal shoots (like we did in celebration of Memorial Day).
I had people ask me if they could shoot their Class 3 firearms, rifle-caliber pistols (ie: AR pistol, AK pistol, etc), and one lady asked me if she could participate using a .22 rifle because she was scared of ARs!! :rolleyes:
After that, I started modifying our SOP to include Q&O to identify the skill level of the shooters and identify the Skill Level allowed into each event. I realized that by formalizing the group, I would have to allow any club member who met the skill-level criteria and had the minimum equipment to participate. I decided that it would take a lot of time and effort to be able to perform this evaluation which none of us had. So after one session we voted to disband (at least formally).
You guys keep up the good work!! 
I won’t buy any mag that publishes Pat Rogers articles. :rolleyes:
Really? I usually find his articles to be relevent and informative. I would say that the majority of shooters consider him to be one of the top trainers available. Do you have a factual disagreement with the content or is this just a hurt feelings / personality thing?
I think it has to do with some “misrepresentation” issues.
If that’s the case, 99.99% of gun writers would be guilty of that.lol
Oh. I remember this from Arfcom. Pownetwork or something. Innocent_Bystander posted this:
[b]Nope was a pistol class, Masters 250. Pat was teaching the 1911 group of the class. I was in the other group. I was shooting a Glock 35. We all had class/lecture time together.
I believe that was the last class Cooper did the lecture for. Pat got bent out of shape at me after the class because I posted on (maybe Glocktalk?) that Cooper’s lecture was geared toward 1976 not 2000. That upset Pat so he said he was going to have Gunsite yank the E-Ticket I earned in the class.
As a result of Pat’s antics I cancelled two other Gunsite classes I had scheduled and a bunch of other people I knew did as well. Gunsite never contacted me. I heard that Pat lost his welcome at Gunsite not long after that but I have no idea what the circumstances were.
Should we talk about Pat’s false accusations against my friends at Cavalry Arms next?
As for the link, I have no idea who put that together. I have seen it posted on several websites. The part I find most alarming is that a reporter suggests that Pat trained Arafat’s personal body guards. [/b]
Is this you Markm. I noticed you have the exact same avitar.
EDIT. Should have read further. Markm comments later to say that he has never met him, but thinks he has antics on the gun boards. Guess it’s just a coincidence that they share an avatar and have the same opinion.