J. Allen Stock Information

I cracked the composite stock on my Springfield M1A. I never was able to get the accuracy out of this rifle that I was hoping for. I am considering the J. Allen M1A stock.

Does anyone have first hand knowledge of this stock. I am 6’4" and I like the idea of the modular adjustable abilities of this stock.

The M1A has always been hard to glass bed and even then bedding did not last long. Will this stock secure the action as well as bedding?

Please provide info on this stock if you have first hand knowledge.

Thank you in advance,
Until that day,

Darkop

Nobody? I am interested as well.

I’m planning to get a M14/M1A this year and JAE100-G2 stock. I guess nobody is biting here, so you might want to ask over at: http://www.m14tfl.com/

~ The JAE is a overly complicated and very heavy stock.

When it come to modern stocks and accuracy consider this.
18.0" and 22.0" are more accurate from SAGE EBR stocks and
16.25" SOCOM rifles perform better in the TROY M14 MCS stock.

M14DW.US

EBRSOPMODS.com

Depending on how you set them up, both the SAGE EBR and
TROY MCS tend to be lighter than a JAE set up in a similar fashion.

The lightest mass produced modern M14 stock is the SAGE EBR
with the AR style receiver extension tube.

New Synthetic/Carbon Fiber M14 stocks will soon be available from LAW483.com
Darkop, I hope this information helps you - good luck.

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WOW!, if your saying the Sage stock is lighter than the JAE, then I’m suprised. I held a friends Sage and thought it was very heavy! I guess the JAE must be even heavier than that.

I really don’t want something with all of the rails on it and that’s why I thought I would go with the JAE.

Anyone have a JAE mounted up that can tell me about the weight difference?

Until that day,
Darkop

Make sure you compare the JAE to the M4 style SAGE EBR.

The SAGE EBR with the AR style receiver extension tube is the lightest mass produced modern M14 stock and it’s about two
pounds lighter than the original EBR stock with the telescoping butt stock, adjustable cheek rest and butt pad pictured below.

Where are they saving the weight between the two? From pictures it looks like there is no difference until you hit the rear of the receiver area.

What’s the scoop on the LAW483 stocks?

Spooky

H2OMAN,
Do you happen to know the weight of the Sage stock (M14ALCS/CV). I checked thier web sight but it doesn’t list the weight.

The JAE is 3.5 LBS to 6 LBS depending on accessories. I was not going with many
add-ons.

TIA

Darkop

The tail section on the original is all metal and very heavy, the AR style is much, much lighter.

I home to have some pictures of the LAW483 stocks soon, Tony may send me one for evaluation.

About 4 lbs. with a Magpul CTR installed.

A USGI synthetic stock weighs about 3 lbs. with a cleaning kit stored in the butt stock.

I just received an e mail from Sage Int’l. Here is what they had to say.

Dear

Thank you for inquiring on our EBR Stock. I have included a brochure for you on the ALCS/CV. The Weight of the M14ALCS is 6.25-6.5 lbs. I am referring you to our distributor. Here is their contact information:

US TACTICAL SUPPLY

PHONE: 541-928-8645

FAX: 541-791-2965

PO BOX 811

ALBANY, OR 97321

WWW.USTACTICALSUPPLY.COM

Decisions Decisions Decisions

Until that day,
Darkop

Like I said, the 6.25+ lb. M14ALCS is about 2 pounds heavier than the 4.0 lb M14ALCS/CV.

The SAGE EBR distributor that I recommend is Clyde Armory in Bogart/Athens, Georgia.

I have a first generation JAE stock. It is nice, especially if your M1A is scoped, but it is definitely heavy. If you’re shooting off the bench or prone or a fixed position its great. I wouldn’t want to tote it around very long.

I’d say that a JAE stock’s utility really depends on what you’re using the rifle for.

My JAE improved accuracy, and was extremely comfortable. I loved the cheekweld.

FEDERALE
Did the gen 1 JAE’s have the barrel tensioner? if so, do you have it?

STEVE-OH
Do you have the gen 1 or gen 2 stock. Does yours have the barrel tensioner?

My Springfield stock has a crack running under the action so I’m fairly sure that is why I can’t get it to consistently group very well.

FEDERALE and STEVE-OH what kind of accuracy improvements did you see when you went to the JAE stock.

Thanks in advance,
until that day,

Darkop

Have you tried to get your stock replaced under warranty?

No. It is several years old and has used pretty hard. (Not abused)

I’m trying to figure out if I should just place this in another stock (JAE or SAGE) and then buy a precision bolt gun or put more money into this M1A.

Until that day,

Darkop

What does your M1A shoot like now?

And J.Allen is pretty responsive to emails. Maybe you should just contact them?

They are very responsive to emails. As in, same day answers in my experience.
Barrel tensioner, I’m not sure - it has little (titanium?) clamps that tighten down on the bottom of the reciever to free float the barrel, if thats what you mean.
I saw a half inch reduction with mine. (TRW barrel, GI trigger group). Here’s the weird thing, and I don’t know if anybody else experienced this, but it also made my trigger feel lighter, which I’m sure helped with shrinking the groups.

Federale, what does your rig weigh as pictured?

SAI has a real nice lifetime warranty… they may surprise you.

You can make your M1A a reliable sub MOA performer and the SAGE EBR is an excellent step in that direction.