Did you vote for Rand Paul?
I’m really just curious if the opposition party or parties will have any unity in November of 2016 or if we will likely have another four to eight years of control by the people handling Obama.
I would vote, but honestly cannot until I see who is actually on the ballot. My state does have ‘none of the above’ option and I may end up using it again.
The only problem I see is if the GOP establishment wants someone else like Jeb Bush. I like Rand and would vote for him in a heartbeat, but he rocks the boat a lot within the GOP party and I could see them going against him.
At this point as long as its someone on the right ive vote for them. I am not going to throw ny vote away on no one and especially not some liberal.
Even if I dont agree with their whole stance, having someone from the right is better than not.
I find this mentality hilarious. The only way to throw away your vote is to not vote. Vote for whomever you wish, for whatever reasons you have, but do not delude yourself or others into thinking that voting for none of the above is throwing your vote away.
An alternative point of view, which (after eight presidential elections) I am beginning to embrace:
The problem is that our system is so incredibly broken because both parties have two different types of candidates they want to see in the White House, and both are 180 degrees opposite from either the right moves or the right intentions. The GOP look at the presidency as succession; they nominate based on who’s “turn” it is. Bush had his turn in 2000, in 2008, it was McCain’s turn, last time it was Romney, and this time, it’ll probably be Jeb Bush or Newt Gingrich. The Democrats only want people who are going to make historical landmarks so they can pat themselves on the back for being progressive. They want the first black president, the first woman president, the first openly gay president, etc. They don’t care for Hillary, but they want her to win so that they can make history with the first female president. They’d vote for Queen Jezebel or Ilse Koch if it meant getting them getting to claim the first woman president honor.
I’ll gladly and eagerly vote for Rand Paul or Ted Cruz, but unless David Clarke is running on the Dem ticket in two years, I’ll be voting GOP no matter what, even if it’s just voting against the Democrats.
That is your opinion which is great.
However it wont get our representative in office and has gotten theres in.
Except Christy. I draw the line there. I will NEVER vote for that lard-ass and I don’t care who wins as a result. Soooo, Republican primary voters, choose very carefully in the booth. If you don’t vote your conscience and instead vote for some fvcked-up, loser mentality of “electability” you will reap what you sow and the next 4-8 years of Dem control will rest squarely on YOUR shoulders. Don’t even try to point the finger later and say “You could’ve held your nose”…done that the last two POTUS election cycles and I’m NOT doing it again.
Wrong. What has gotten theirs in are sorry-ass, spineless Republican primary voters. “Gee, I really like what XXX stands for but YYY is more likely to be elected”. Wishy-washy horseshit that is! Vote for XXX because you believe in what he stands for, not YYY because their “electable” (God, I despise that word). It should be painfully apparent where that has gotten us in '08 and '12. Guess McCain and Romney weren’t so “electable” after all, especially when their base (!) doesn’t want them.
To be quite frank, while I would vote for Rand Paul, he has begun to stray off the reservation on issues like illegal immigration and pandering to blacks (remember that?). No problem courting a new constituency but pandering is bullshit.
Cruz is my guy, or some palatable alternative to him.
I would like to see Paul as VPOTUS. I’m not a big fan of some of his foreign policy ides (too close to his dad’s, but Rand isn’t blaming Israel). I would go for Cruz or West.
Would stay home for Chrisite and maybe even Jeb because of his stance on illegal immigration.
Electability isnt something that should be considered when voting.
I would always suggest voting for a republican over a democrat, even if you disagree with some of their choices.
Yeah, I know. Why I’d stay home for Christie.
Cart before the horse! He has to win the primary first and your assumption that he will is a big one. I will get behind whomever wins the primary, even if I have to hold my nose to do so in order to get the WH out of demonic control.
Unfortunately, you know that it is. The last presidential election is a good example. I RARELY heard ANYONE say they were for Romney during the primaries. Yet he won the nomination. Of course all this was under the shadow of the MSM telling Republicans who should be nominated as he stood the “best chance against Obama”. Clever little ploy, and it apparently worked. For the handful of voices I ever heard supportive of Romney he sure won the nomination, which tells me “electability” was EXACTLY what was on the minds of Republican primary voters (at least enough for him to be nominated). This has to be eradicated from primary voters’ thought processes (or lack thereof). I no longer feel compelled to vote for their poorly thought-out choices just because ZZZ might be elected otherwise. Maybe THEY should have thought about that in the primary booth and voted their conscience.
It is thinking like this that is at least partly responsible for BHO getting a second term. By that I mean the people that could not bring themselves to vote for Romney and either cast a protest vote, or simply refused to vote at all.
And I was for Romney all the way and feel confident that history has shown he would have been a much better president than BHO. Heck, alsmost anybody could.
No, it is thinking like THAT which accounted for Obama’s second term. You were in a minority in the Republican Party, trust me. See my previous post. The MSM made primary voters into friggin’ morons who voted for “electability” (coupled with VERY few Romney true-believers like yourself) then attempted to shame the rest of us in the general election. It worked on me last time but will NOT ever again.
Oh, I’m far from alone in my view about this. There were a huge number of those who, like myself, held their nose but refuse to do so anymore if the Republicans can’t nominate someone worth a damn. In fact, it’s more than enough to ruin the election chances of a RINO if that’s what primary voters put forth. Oh well, choose carefully…
No, it was the media and DNC going all out in an effort to destroy Romney or any other GOP contender that got Obama his second term.
For all that he might not be, Romney is a good man overall. And I’ve never seen anyone get pummeled like he did. All he needed to do was sprout horns and everything would have been complete in their world.
And yes, he would have been a far better President than Obama.