Israel's Tavor Rifle vs an AUG?

General Firearms Other Semi-Automatic Rifles
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Can someone educate me on the difference of the Israeli TAR21 Trevor Rifle to that of the Styer AUG? I just learned about it and it looks a lot like the latter.

I have an AUG built by Sabre Defence but it’s not w/o it problems (I hate it’s trigger) but it’s useful in tight situations.

Thanks

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You might get the answer if you post this in the ‘other assault rifles’ section…

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And all this time I have been calling it a Tavor. :smiley:

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i don’t think there are much differences aside from the tavor being able to switch sides that brass are ejected from.

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get a left handed bolt and you can do that with the AUG too as long as its not in a NATO stock.

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…but you can’t do it on the fly. Something the nation with extensive combat experience thinks is important…hmmmmm…I smell a clue somewhere around here.

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Are you sure about that? Its my understanding that you have to change bolts.

not sure how to make the video link hot but at the 35 second mark it says as much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS3vHnEQXBg

Is this a recient upgrade on some of the newer models?

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I think it has more to do with the AUG having been a 1977 design and the Tavor being able to build and improve upon the concept. Same way the Israelis took an old Czech SMG and made some useful updates and ended up with an Uzi.

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Not to piss in your cherios. BUT I thought we (America) was the nation with the extensive combat experience. Just saying. :slight_smile:

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Who says we cornered the market?

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My mistake. I thought the Tavor was like the FN-2000 and ejected ambi.

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I didnt say we cornered it, but at this point the Israel vs Palestine fight is like a junior high lunch fight compared to what our guys have been doing the past ten years. :neo:

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Does it not? I thought it did also. Although I know the FN bullpup has had it’s problems.

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I was considering the Tavor before I bought my FS2000. I did download the armorer’s manual for the Tavor and can say that you can change the side it ejects from, but you need the left handed bolt and you need to change the ejection port cover to the opposite side.

The FS2000 ejects from the front, near the muzzle. To get the empty cartridge cases up there requires a more complex mechanism than most rifles use.

TANSTAAFL

H

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This is the part that worries me about that design.

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Actually the FN-2000 is NOT ambi, it’s a front eject. So it doesn’t matter how you shoulder it.

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Actually I think it’s both, I’ve known it as the Tavor TAR-21 since the first time I learned of it’s development. BTW, my wife and I have been considering the AUG A3 for sometime now, I would have to be convienced that what ever version of the Tavor finally arrives in the US will be of the same quality as the Israeli version. I think the AUG has been a well proven design for sometime now.

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No experience with the Tavor. If you are looking for a bullpup, the AUG is a phenomenal platform. It has truly tool-less quick change barrel (for what it is worth), can be used with factory AUG mags or AR15 mags (with a NATO stock), has factory and non-factory accessory options, has spare parts support from the manufacturer (through Pete Athens even after AUGs were banned from import in '89). With Steyr contracted barrels made by FN here in the US, the AUG A3 is going to be even better.

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I was referring to going at it with Hezboallah in 07 and Lebanon 82.

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Speaking of which AUG USA is finally bringing back their AUG A3.

http://www.steyrarms.com/news/items/article/press-release-auga3-returns-in-august/?tx_ttnews[backPid]=9&cHash=ca77c128ae23b34263d0b972d8c433bb