not to go religious on you guys, but this has already all been prophesied for thousands of years. Israel will be fine.
From your mouth to the Almighty’s ears.
Absolutely, I just think its crazy how little support they get. And I do wonder to what magnitude it will effect the world? Deep stuff
The reason they do not get more support is because the morals and ethics of this world are in the sewer or the world is full of cowards. They elected Iran to the committee for womens rights in the UN and Libya to the committee for human rights some time ago.:rolleyes:
You tell me if I am wrong.
Now all they need is North Korea and Zimbabwe running a committee of human rights… This sounds like a bad Monty Python plot…
When I was in Iraq I would talk with this guy who worked at a power plant. He was an Iraqi scout during the Iran Iraq war.
He was telling me that the Iran military is full of a bunch of untrained, drugged conscripts. He had a story about over watching a mine field. The Iraninas came to the minefield and would use their soldiers to walk a path until they crossed it.
I would think in a full blown no hands tied war, Isreal will crush Iran.
While I do think that in a head to head, Israel would beat Iran, I am not sure that they would crush them easily. I thought that they would easily crush Hezbollah, and that turned out to not be a walk in the park.
Sounds like Israel is looking for an excuse.
If anything happens I will be surprised.
If anything does happen, Israel will win, UNLESS Russia and/or China gets involved. Could be World War 3.
I do find it odd that Obama is going against Israel. They supposedly have a large lobby here in the US.
The Oil Lobby is much bigger and with a President that always was pro Arab/Muslim, Israel does not and never did stand a chance.
Which begs the question of, why do Jewish voters support Obama by a margin of 70%? At least that was the number I saw last week.
In the past Jews identified with the secular left because the religious right used to blame the Jews for everything including the killing of Christ. We all know that with time this has changed and the biggest supporters of the Jews and the state of Israel are the religious Christians, these are the real Christians the ones that do not believe and follow old prejudices and follow the Bible at its word.
Also do not forget that most old Jews came to this country from other countries that were devout Christians (as an example Spain where Jews are hated to this day) and the old hatred and prejudices prevailed in those countries and some of the biggest atrocities happened because of those prejudices. So the Jews identifying with the secular left was a natural follow up.
The one thing that Jews did not get was that they will be hated just because they are Jews religion or not by some on either side.
Some are starting to get it and Obama is helping greatly in that and the Christian and the secular conservatives support for Israel is starting to change many young Jewish peoples minds and I think the split is closer to 50/50 if you do not count New York.
Don’t forget Bush got elected twice in Florida because many Jews voted for him because of his support of the State of Israel when in other times he would have lost there.
By the way the Israeli Jewish support for Obama and his policies is at 4% when it was much much higher before the election.
Under Bush, if Israel went all out on Iran I could see them winning hands down with our support and stern eye to other nations. But now under President Obama, I think they are going to have a real tough time, forcing the war to drag out that will crumple world opinion that is on their side. Since most countries and terrorist see Obama as weak (proof of the recent attempted terrorist attacks; his no show of great support during the Iranian election fiasco of June, 2008; and his great apology tour of the Muslim world), other countries like Russia, China, and NKorea will put their hands in the game, and could possibly force Israel to loose.
Bad all around.
In any case, buy IMI stuff to help boost Israel’s cash flow to stock up on better weapons. A Baby Eagle looks promising in my future if this situation starts looking to really fold out.
Any ordnance Israel drops on Iran might measured in the kilotons on up. There is a good chance that if they mounted a large scale conventional operation it would not only fail to achieve their goals in any long term sense, but there is also a danger that US public or political opinion could against them causing a repeat of the embargoes after the six-day war. If they want to survive they have to destroy the ability and will of their enemies to wage war.
Obama is a radical muslim is why. He’s a closet sympathizer with the middle east.
Despite all of the proselytizing sympathies for Israel both Putin and Medved have publicly stated that an attack on Iran would be considered an attack on Russia and have changed their nuclear usage policy to include “conventional attacks on Russia”. I “get it”. I am not at all interested in determining if Putin-Medved are serious or not, either. If the bulk of the persons are incorrect; what happens then??
of course iran is building nuclear power plants, they need them! it’s not like they’re sitting on an ocean of oil… oh wait :o
If Israel attacks Iran then it is between Israel, Iran and Russia if the Russians want to attack Israel not America, so do not worry you are safe from a Russian attack because Obama will not lift a finger to help Israel.
The other solution is that Israel does nothing, Iran puts one Nuke on Israel and it is all over and the world gets rid of those pesky Jew’s in the middle east and maybe later everywhere else.:rolleyes:
Then of course Iran is happy they got rid of the “little satan” and they got away with it so why not try a few more nukes on the “great satan” and put it in its place and see what happens because the great satan will be afraid to move because Putke said an attack on Iran is an attack on Russia.:rolleyes:
How do you like this scenario?:rolleyes:
Do not forget sometimes you have to do what you have to do and take your chances that’s the way things go.:rolleyes:
Obama will avert war by bowing to all of our enemies, thus demonstrating our peaceful nature.
Israel can’t hit Iran without US or Turkish permission, and that’s not going to happen.