Is this the new holy grail of political correctness for north American democrats/marxist/leninists? I’d say that its starting to look like a big YES!
This is radical stuff. But there is a growing conviction, notably in Canada, that paedophilia should probably be classified as a distinct sexual orientation, like heterosexuality or homosexuality. Two eminent researchers testified to that effect to a Canadian parliamentary commission last year, and the Harvard Mental Health Letter of July 2010 stated baldly that paedophilia “is a sexual orientation” and therefore “unlikely to change”.
The reclassification of paedophilia as a sexual orientation would, however, play into what Goode calls “the sexual liberation discourse”, which has existed since the 1970s. “There are a lot of people,” she says, “who say: we outlawed homosexuality, and we were wrong. Perhaps we’re wrong about paedophilia.”
But the fact is… no. Westerners will never accept it. Because pedophilia, no matter what way you cut it, is rape.
Even most “progressives” won’t touch it.
And they shouldn’t. Pedophilia is wrong, and I feel retarded for even having to type that sentence. That’s just something everybody should know. And it’s a total goatfuck that you can’t put somebody on death row for pedophilic acts.
I may sound odd here but it’s actually a recent trend to classify a 19 or 20 year old guy who has sex with a 15 or 16 year old with a sex crime. People used to get married much younger than that even here in the US. When I did home installs I met a lady who got married at 15 right here in Texas. Of course the laws have changed since then, and now her husband would be labeled as a pedophile.
I may be wrong but I was taught the Roman’s were getting married at 13/14/15.
Obviously the life expectancy was a lot different in the past but is being attracted to a female of child bearing age a mental disorder?
Would I want to be now? No. They are so annoying the sex wouldn’t be worth it. My SIL is 19, and it’s nothing but drama 24/7 with her. I would shoot myself before we rounded 1st base knowing her, and where I’m at now.
The social dynamic has changed but I wouldn’t call someone a pedo because they thought a 17 year old was hot. You’d have to be dumb to date one though because before at 17 they would be able to take care of themselves now at 17 their lives are nothing but fucking drama and being as slutty as possible for a bunch of a dumb ass metrosexual males.
After some of the conversations I’ve had with clinicians in recent years it seems they we are well on are way to the point of accepting it as normal behavior for some since after all their just wired different due to mental aberrations and therefore are unable change who they are. Sadly though I think that the more mainstream this line of thinking becomes the understanding society will eventually become as well.
I mean look at whats happening in states like Colorado who steadfastly refuse to increase the severity of punishments for sex offenders all because of this fanciful belief that these types of people can be somehow rehabilitated :rolleyes:
I agree but it depends on whats classified as a sex crime.
Like I said I met someone who was MARRIED at 15. Back then they would have laughed at you but now every child is a special flower and needs to go to college and have a career.
Kinda makes you think when looking back at people.
I think its mostly social and its absurd people are catching sexual offender status’ because it.
The Romans also engaged in pedophilia quite regularly from what I understand. Also, I’m talking more about violating a 9 year old. That’s fucking horrific. A 19 year old sleeping with a willing 16 year old isn’t that bad.
No I agree with you there. I just seems society as a collective tends to go off the rails from time to time. But you can probably thank the feminists for the problems with the types of scenarios you mentioned. Men exploiting women and what not.
This is radical stuff. But there is a growing conviction, notably in Canada, that paedophilia should probably be classified as a distinct sexual orientation, like heterosexuality or homosexuality. Two eminent researchers testified to that effect to a Canadian parliamentary commission last year, and the Harvard Mental Health Letter of July 2010 stated baldly that paedophilia “is a sexual orientation” and therefore “unlikely to change”.
The reclassification of paedophilia as a sexual orientation would, however, play into what Goode calls “the sexual liberation discourse”, which has existed since the 1970s. “There are a lot of people,” she says, “who say: we outlawed homosexuality, and we were wrong. Perhaps we’re wrong about paedophilia.”
I actually agree. I don’t think it is a “choice”, I don’t think anyone chooses to be homosexual or a pedophile or a predatory serial killer. I think it is simply who and what some people are.
I don’t think you can cure or fix a homosexual or a pedophile or a serial killer. And I think all qualify as abnormalities. In cases where it includes only consenting adults I don’t think there are any issues. It’s not “normal” but neither is huffing gold spray paint out of a paper sack and people do that too.
But with pedophiles and serial killers the action leads to victims and not consenting adults. So neither should be tolerated at all. And quite honestly, neither should be free. For a pedophile or a serial killer to attempt to repress their natural instincts would be about like anyone on this forum to try to never have sex again or never go shooting again. Right now there are registered sex offenders living in virtually every neighborhood (and I don’t just mean the kind that got caught pissing in the park at night) and they like to fuck young children as much as you like to shoot your AR and as much as I’d like to fuck Monica Bellucci.
The classes I have taken pegged the age at 13/14 for Roman marriages. Some younger, some older…
I’ve not read about any western common practices of marriages of 9 year olds, and I’ve read a lot of history books. I don’t want that to get confused with that I said earlier. NOT what what I saying.
Yeah pretty much. And it has more to do with development and puberty.
I think it is more wrong for a 15 year old to have sex with a prepubescent 13 year old than it is for a 14 year old to have sex with a 12 year old who has gone through puberty and developed.
It’s a messy issue like abortion where there isn’t an obvious place to draw the line and make the rules. Too far to one side and you have adults fucking children, too far to the other and you have kids going to jail because they fucked. Add in things like moral expectations vs. personal freedom and it’s somebody nobody wants to wade into the middle of. And that is why these issues sometimes get passed.
Quite a bit of that had to do with that being the age for successful breeding and making sure they got married into the correct social class of family before they reproduced with just anyone.
And in most cases they didn’t have to go to school, get a degree and buy a house before they could start a family. The requirements of modern society to be prepared to start a family are what actually prevents most people from being married until they are at least in college if not already graduated.
Which is why I said it’s a social thing not a mental disorder to be attracted to a teenager like a 17 year old (without knowing their age). Does ‘college’ suddenly make tens of thousands of years of human urge a crime or a mental disorder?
I hypothesize that the extremes should be made illegal, and the moderate/gray areas need to be decided on a case by case basis. Like you said. It’s like abortion, and it’s a hard issue to make hard rules about.
Marriage basically means sex. Which is why I said its a very recent thing that sex with a 15/16 year old is now a crime and means you have a mental disorder.
I feel odd saying it because it I’m in my 20’s but after talking to older people it was common not that long ago. I met my wife when she was barely 20. If we had met 2 1/4 years earlier Id be a pedo. So stupid. People are delusional if they can accept history.
