Sorry, but no one is going to trust the guy with two posts who comes on here claiming KAC to be junk when in fact, quite the opposite has been proven. They are held in high regard by countless professionals in the industry. But if you want to give people a reason to chuckle, you could share your experience.
I emailed Brian from LT this past week and he said on all new OBR, expect at least a 5 to 6 month wait right now…
whenever their is a waiting list for pre-orders, you always have a few folks who drop out due to whatever reason…that makes the line to the front that much shorter.
You should probably put the OSR and REPR in the equation also, and they are priced inline with the LMT.
KAC is always priced a bit higher than most of the competing products. I am going to buy a SR15, but I cant justify for my use. the price variance in the .308 market. YMMV.
Well one thing to keep in mind is that KAC probably wants to offer these rifles cheaper, but may be unable to do so without undercutting their government contracts.
Either way, I think the SR-25 EMC is probably what I’ll go with. I’ve had a pre-order for the Larue OBR for the past 6 months, and I’m basically just done waiting. I don’t think the REPR’s design is as solid as I’d like it to be. The LMT while well built just seems a tad too new for me to want to dive in fully.
If you want a fair comparison, you would have to look at weapons that are actually in production and tested by the military. Lots of people are making .308s, and that goes from small shops to large, but to have real production and successful military testing put those weapon series in a different market than the others.
I think its only fair then to put LMT in the mix since they did win the UK contract. Using the parameters you listed above I think it is a fair analysis… I don’t think anybody is stupid enough to argue that KAC doesn’t builds fantastic rifles, but I do think that it is fair to compare the cost variance and why they cost almost double what the LMT cost…
Quoted from KevinB “FYI LMT won the British “SharpShooter” competition for a 16” gun, for some reason our (KAC) British rep, entered a 20" gun - but thats another story."
I mean, who does that? Shows up to a military solicitation, for their niche product BTW, and brings the wrong product! To me this reads like KAC stepped aside to let a rifle that is mostly KAC anyway win the trial. Is it possible that KAC, a domestic US DoD contractor/supplier for this product, be legally barred from foreign military sales of this same product. Badging it LMT could get around that. Though a US DoD contractor as well, LMT doesn’t supply US DoD with this particular product. Their could be a contractual/financial component to this as well. Just a thought.
The chicken flavor is much better than the beef… I am jealous, and I don’t say that very often.
I will have to settle for the OSR/OBR or whatever the hell he’s calling it and a REPR…
I am going to pic up a SR15 though. They are just to nice to pass on… If the Nighthawk package wasn’t so much, I might have bit the bullet on that. I don’t get why they didn’t use a frame with a integral magwell and tube for a hard use 1911 though. I wish it had the frame that my Vickers Recon has…
I’ve been waiting…and waiting…and waiting for my REPR, but I’m seriously impressed with how the LMT turned out. Any word on when a stainless barrel version will be released? Love to see it with an 18 in stainless barrel.
Good luck with that. First, as has already been mentioned I believe, the H&K will cost significantly more than that. Second, nothing in the recent history of H&K indicates that their products will come out on time, no matter what they say at SHOT SHOW.
If you are looking for cheap, get a DPMS, Rock River, etc. That is your right and I will not judge you for it. Many on here prefer to buy the best quality that they can afford and are willing to save up to do it, and that is also their right. When you compare LMT’s costs to other high end manufacturers, they are very competitive in terms of cost.
Do I want to spend $2500 on a rifle? No, of course I don’t. However, I will and because I buy quality to begin with, it will more than likely last me the rest of my life.
In my opinion the LMT rifle is well worth $2500. It now has a military contract to back up it’s credibility when compared to others such as DPMS, RRA, and armalite while still costing much less than the KAC offerings. The proof will be when the rifle are actually shipping and reviews are written. I was very tempted to buy one of these LMT rifles, until I found a great deal on a Remington 700 SPS tactical to use as my long range set up. If reviews start turning up with reports that this is a very accurate rifle, I might sell the rem 700 and go with my original plan of a Sass type rifle.
I am jealous, and I don’t say that very often.