Iraqi DPMS Carbines from Century Arms

In a recent email from Centerfire Systems, I saw that they had some used DPMS A-15 rifles from $449 delivered. This was on Friday, May30 IIRC. I called to order one after receiving the email and I asked the sales person if she knew any particulars but she had no information other than they had 200 for sale. I placed an order at that time and then called back the following Monday to order another but they’d already sold out.

Anyway, the rifle I received is used with finish wear on the front sight block, flash hider and edges of the upper and lower receiver but there’s really not much evidence of internal wear. As unboxed, the rifle was very dirty and looked like it had spent some time out of doors but most of that cleaned up with some compressed air and a dry paintbrush. The plastic furniture is a little rough and there’s a crack in the glacier handguard but it isn’t anything that will effect functionality.

Overall, I am pleased with the purchase and wish I would have been a bit quicker on the decision to buy two. This will make a good spare or loaner gun and will be used primarily as a beater. I’ll get to the range here today or tomorrow and see how the rifle shoots. I’m curious to see if the former owner had an understanding of proper sight alignment.

So did anyone else happen to pick one of these up? They were sold by Ellett Brothers and Centerfire Systems and likely a few others. There were supposed to be several hundred of them imported and, from what I can find, these were supposedly brought back after having been used in Iraq. Just who used them and how many came back in is a mystery to me at this point and I’m curious if anyone has any info.

Interesting. Got any pics of yours?

I’ll try to throw some photos up this afternoon.

So the Clinton law prohibits any more imports of US M1 Garands but the DPMS crap that somebody like Wackenhut used in Iraq is suitable for importation back to the US?

Sounds like a salesman story to me. Probably LE guns from Arizona.

I haven’t noticed any import markings on the rifle anywhere and it certainly could be a police trade-in from somewhere stateside.

M1 Garand equals bigger bullet, bigger bullet equals utter devastation and must therefore somehow offset the minimal capacity accompanied by excess weight. No clue what the issue is with the M1 Carbine beyond tossing all rationale out the window as usual, just like with the Garand. Round and round we go, then around again! What joyous fun. :lazy2:

Did one of those guns have “the shoulder thing that goes up?” :lol:

Or you could paraphrase the typical liberal response.

“It’s scary thing that goes bang.”

I left Iraq in late October 2011. At the old Victory base there were hundreds or more DPMS and other misc. AR’s in containers. At that time I was procuring AK’s for my company. To the best of my knowledge when speaking with the various powers about all the equipment that was there (to include handguns, mags, etc…) and my conversations with the DDTC none of this stuff was going to be allowed back in the U.S.

I didn’t get off work in time to make it to the range. Maybe tomorrow.

Here are some photos. I took a couple of the bolt carrier group but they were blurry.

I’d say that solves that mystery.

Yeah, probably.

I don’t really care about any back story one way or the other and am just curious.

I am happy with the gun at $450 and will certainly get my money’s worth out of it.

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Chrome lined barrel?

Yes. Appears to be.

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Pardon my ignorance, but who would be using DPMS AR’s in Iraq? The enemy?

Contractors I would imagine. Have spoken to some who worked over there and A-stan. To say some were supplied on the cheap sometimes can be a vast understatement and an insult to cheap ass bastards. One guy said the outfit he was with for a short time supplied them with some old Colts and a single 20 round mag and old level IIa vests. They ended up begging old 30 rounders off of some of the guys on the FOB from what he claimed.

If you are satisfied with your purchase that is all that matters, I just am weary of the “this one was used by (special forces, CIA, John Wayne himself, etc.)” stories often used to sell firearms that few people would otherwise buy.

People who sell used guns should show a little more dignity than those who sell used cars.

Not necessarily. If the firearms were used by a contractor registered with DoS, they could have been part of form DSP-73 (temporary import/export license). They wouldn’t have any additional import/export markings and would be legal to sell once they made it back to CONUS.

A glut of WASR-10’s used by Ugandan guards just hit the shelves a short while ago.

Regardless, you buy the gun, not the story. Nothing particularly special about a DPMS or a WASR10, at least to me. YMMV.

I saw some of these rifles at the LGS today. The sign claims these rifles were used in Afghanistan by contractors and are bring backs. They were listed for $499. The rifles had worn finishes and what looked like fine dust in the nooks & crannies. They also had some Armalite middies with fixed stocks in about the same condition for $100 more. I was thinking one might make a good conversation piece or souvenir someday

Or a flip rifle for the next craze when it starts. $500 per would at least double.

And being that it (probably) came from Afghanistan and was obviously used by the Pararescue Special Air Seal Recon Delta Teams that always uses DPMS, that adds value as well :smiley:

$500 for a beater gun or putting in the back of the safe isn’t a bad investment.