Hello Folks, I’m interested if anyone out there in the Forum has any previous experience with a Glock 22 .40, within the URX Prefix serial # range ? ( Circa 2013 mfg., IIRC ? ) I recall that around that time frame, a few Dept’s were encountering malfunctions when attempting to qualify with their weapon lights affixed ? My recollection of the issue is rather scanty, as to which brand of light(s), & or ammunition used. My question is, is anyone aware whether any G22’s in the URX # Prefix was involved in this ‘problem’, or in any other noted issues over the years ? Currently, my G22, which is the one in question, is set up as a G37 .45 GAP. I absolutely love all my GAP’s, but am contemplating returning it to .40, & set it up as my quick response pistol, w/ factory 22rd magazine & either a TLR -1 or TLR-3. And, before anyone tells me to ‘just go shoot it’, & figured I’d solicit a bit of information on the ‘lights’ issue, before converting it back to .40. ( And no, I’ve never shot my ‘G37’ w/ a light affixed. ) If anybody could assist me with the question, I’d be very appreciative. My hands & fingers have been bothering me lately, & if I find out if my URX G22-.40 ‘might be’, & or is likely to have issues, I won’t bother going back to to .40 & just keep it as it is. THANK YOU Guys !!
Aha !! Now we remember, I think ? Glock had their Rep’s running all over to different P.D.'s to initiate some damage control. ‘IF’ that’s indeed what it was, I 'I’m be a happy camper again. I’ve got a great G38 that runs beautiful, both so & without a light. So right now, I’d prefer to use my .40, set up w/ a light & Glock 22 rd magazine. My old Gen. 2 G17 is always on duty but no light rails, & I’ve gotten too lazy to use the old style hand held SureFire !!
THANKS Guys, I really do appreciate the input. OK, if it is a spring related issue, exactly which weight of Recoil Spring should I install when returning it to .40 S&W ? Or, to ask it another way, Which R/S Part # is, or was Glock now installing in their ‘Post-Problem’ Gen.3 - G22’s ? I’ll order 2 just to have an available spare. I like the idea of just having to grab a single item to investigate, & or handle the most commonly encountered ‘security concerns’. Just grab the G22, & I’m good to go with a adequate white light, 22 rd of adequate ammo on board, & along w/ an relatively reliable weapons system all ready to roll. Plus, I’ still got my G38 ( Gen. 3 ) all set up the same way, except for 13 rds readily available, as opposed to 22 rds in the G22. THANKS again Folks for all the kind replies !
Confirming. This is a gen 3 pistol right? The gen 3 G17 and 22 use the same recoil spring. They’re on Midway or Brownells.
I think likely a couple of spare recoil springs (factory aren’t very expensive) and confirm your magazine springs are 11 coil and I think you’re as good as you can be.
The primary problem was with the Gen 3’s - Gen 4 magazines should be GTG. What was happening was the extra weight on the dust cover was making the frame flex less and increasing slide speed enough to outrun the spring. The cure was a spring upgrade - 11 coil versus the 10 coil springs the pistols shipped with.
THANK YOU very much, Guys, I really appreciate it. I didn’t want to spend a few hours searching through all my old Glock notes & reference data. In fact, now as I think about it, I just might have a spare R/S spring in my Glock parts box. If I do I’ll verify the number of coils, & if it’s an 11, hopefully I should be good. Apparently, the added / extra coil appears to have fixed that particular issue, as I can’t recall hearing anything else about it. ( BTW; It is a Gen. 3, w/ FDE, or as Glock refers to it, a DE Frame ) THANKS again,
Hey Guys, THANKS again for all your replies. I checked my Flock parts the other day, & came up with 2 G17 / G22 RSA’s. They’re both mk’d 5579 1. I had dated the bag they’re in as, 02/2015, so they were of course mfg’d prior to then. Will they work, or should I order a few of more recent mfg. ? I also have to order a few mag springs, for both the 15 & 22 rd versions. Usually, I pretty install +10% springs in most of my magazines, as I feel it can’t hurt, & might made all the difference if & when the season’s running dusting dirty ? Hopefully, once I’m ‘all springed up’, my G22 should serve me well, just like all the rest of my Glocks.
THANKS ‘26th Inf.’, As I began to re-read the replies on this Thread I kind of gathered that fact. I can’t recall exactly web I purchased the bulk of my G22 spare mag’s, but will check the rcpt. for the date. Now, as this issue became known, did Glock for all their new production G22 mags with 11 cool springs ? I may have replaced my mag springs with Wolf +10% models, but I don’t recall doing that, as I almost immediately put a G37 upper on it, along with the required frame components. I already had 2 .40 c
S&W Sig’s just hanging around, & felt another .45 might be nice. ( P226 & P229, both DAK’s ) I’ll order a few new 11 coil springs, & some 22 rd types too, just to have in my box.
As far as I know this does not exist. Or it’s called a Gen4 G22. The mag spring upgrade was an improvement but I don’t recall it being a total fix. The Gen4 as I understand was mostly designed to fix the problems with .40 S&W.
I would choose not to run a light on a Gen3 G22, even with new mags.
THANKS Todd, I guess the only true way I’ll ever be sure if it functions, or not, will be to run a few hundred rd through it with a light affixed, of course. I could probably get away with using a TLR-3, which is quite a lightweight, as far as they go. For my intended purpose, that should do just fine. If not, I guess I’ll have to do back in the old days, & use m handheld SureFire. I just figured to go along with the times. When I get a chance to run some boxes through it, I’ll report back with results. THANKS again,
The problem is that the failure is sometimes rare. I think it took a large departments observations over time and a lot of rounds to determine the failure was consistent.
Police trade in 40 S&W Glocks can be found cheap right now, even Gen4.
Unless they are significant to you I’d probably turn the Gen3 22 and the Gen2 17 into one Gen5 17 with bold sights. 9mm will be easier on your hands and I think everything about the Gen5 is a bit better, trigger, grip texture, no finger grooves, magwell, accuracy, those bold sights factory installed.
THANKS Todd, I’ve been looking for a reason to grab a G19x, as I just love them. IIIRC, the 19x has pretty much all the Gen.5 updates, right ? My old G17 has been with me subscribe 1993 or so, & just me be the most accurate handgun I’ve ever owned ! Never a malfunction, either. It’s partial to the Win. 115+p+ load, & if I do my part, will usually put them into one ragged hole. Plus, I 'vs still got my G38 / .45 GAP, & so far, it’s functioned fine with a TLR3 affixed. I could also hopefully make a swap for my NIB Sig P.226R-DAK-.40 for a G19x. Just maybe one of the local dealers would go for such a swap, as the 226 is an LEO Model, w/ 3 mags, Sig nite-sites, etc. I never even fired it, as I already had a P.228 & P.229, plus the 229s a combo, .357 Sig / .40 S&W. I’ve always wanted a 19x, so maybe this will be my impetus to go for it !