Info needed on a piston conversion kit?

Hey fellas, i’ve been outta the AR game for a bit, and do not know to much about piston conversion kits. I have a chance to purchase this kit for a really cheaper price then mentioned, so I’m considering…

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/564378/bushmaster-gas-piston-retrofit-conversion-kit-ar-15-carbine

Easy to install? Compatable with my stag, which has a DD omega rail installed? Quality? Also how in demand are these things at the moment? Any other info you could give me would be appreciated…I would do a search but I only have so much time to access the net here at work (30min lunch), and my pc at home doesnt like me at the moment…thanks

I don’t know much about piston conversion kits, but I did see this video today. Similar to the kit you’re looking at.
http://youtu.be/STpLZwQ7Qyg

Why do you want to do a piston conversion? Is there something your rifle is doing that makes you think you need it?

You might find this thread an interesting read as well.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=99050

That particular kit is pretty easy to install. I’ve installed several of those, and the Ares kit, on several patrol rifles over the last couple of years.

They work… they’re reliable… BUT… get extra springs and other small parts… for just in case.

No, my rifle runs fine…its just a really good deal. Almost 1/4 of the price its listed for in the link. I’ve also heard a lot about the piston systen extending the life of your rifle, and being much cleaner…I really dunno, never shot one, your response does bring up another question tho…Is it save to assume, I can swap it back whenever???

The kit replaces you gas tube and your bolt carrier.

the only reason you could not reverse the process would be if you lost your parts :slight_smile:

So box em up and LABEL them … lol… instead of doing the “Now where did I put that damned box!?!” thang :slight_smile:

Do you shoot surpressed often?
Do you shoot full auto often?
Do you have an SBR?

If the answer is no to all of these you will probably be making your rifle worse.

Just so we are all on the same page, you have a rifle that functions perfectly fine, and you want to add some parts you found really cheap and fundamentally change the way the gun operates? I must be looking at this the wrong way…

And I don’t doubt the piston system will add longevity, its hard for parts to wear when it doesn’t work properly anymore and you never want to shoot it :banghead:

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If your answer is yes to SBR, or Suppressor, or both. You still don’t need it.

If it runs fine why change it, buy more ammo instead of fixing shit that isn’t broke.

Not sure on extending the life of a rifle, but I know some say they don’t have to clean as much. Guess what though, either way you still have to clean it eventually.

Essentially, yes you can change it back. Then you have wasted the money and time on a firearm that was already working fine. So why add the extra weight and risk having issues with already known functioning rifle?

If this seems kind of redundant it is because your rifle works, don’t over complicate it.

you guys think i could get it and flip it on ebay, craiglist, etc…

Whats the demand for this sorta thing?

If you want to flip something learn how to fix up cars.

The piston craze happened years ago.

If you want an op-rod system then get one, it is your rifle. Do you need it? Not really. There are pros and cons to one like less frequent cleaning, cleaner bolt &carrier and chamber. Cons are slightly heavier, more parts that could fail, interchangability with other rifles if it goes down etc. There is nothing wrong with one but it really doesn’t improve the weapon or make it worse. My advice as others you don’t need it. If you have more than one rifle then by all means retro fit one and have both systems. Adams Arms kit is the way to go.

As someone who owns piston and DI rifles, I’d say avoid it. Your rifle works fine. The piston upgrade isn’t worth the cost, as it would be more of a side grade and may make your rifle worse.

As someone else who owns piston and DI rifles, I’d also say avoid it. I built a 5.45 with an Adams piston kit, later converted it to DI. DI and piston both worked find, piston is more expensive and one more thing to clean. Made a 5.56mm upper based on the piston kit which upper just sits in my safe. I have ambitions of an SBR and or suppressed gun, I’m keeping it for that.

Piston conversions are junk, dont waste your money.

If your rifle runs well without it…then it’s not a really good deal, it’s a complete rip-off.

Hell even if your rifle wasn’t running well, why not actually fix it instead of applying bandaids.

Thanks for the advice fellas, like I said before, I’ve been outta the loop, so to speak, for a few years so I think I’ll save my cash.

I was then really starting to think about buying it and putting it for sale online to make a few $100, but from the sounds of it they arent in demand to much.

Gotta ask tho, why the piston sytem in the first place? Arent a lot of these tier 1 rifles going this route? Is the full auto/suppressed/SBR thing?

Also it sounds like many of you guys arent to keen on this system. Is it the actually kit, or do you not like the concept?

And no need to bang your head on any walls, just looking for some freindly advice

1- Demand is not high; everyones designs are proprietary.
2- Search button will answer your posted questions.
3- Majority of this forum do not like piston, they have their reasons.

FWIW- Use and test it yourself. Only YOU can decide if it is for YOU. Keyword, YOU.