Well, no wonder I’m confused…why in the hell wouldn’t they sell them??
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised anything that involves the govt but this seems wasteful in the worst of ways. Thanks for the clarification.
Still at a loss…
Sheeple who are scared of the evil black guns wouldn’t know the difference, only those of us that are vets or regular shooters even noticed.
Or anybody who’s ever grown up around guns period.
They probably shoot better without all that “stuff” getting in their line of sight. :eek:
You have no idea how true this really is! I had my first requal this year and I wanted to pull out what hair I didnt shave off. I got "smacked for not ejecting a mag after a 3rnd string, then when I had a double feed I performed remedial action and got a public ass chewing because it was a saftey issue. Seems that the bbl needs to be checked with a cleaning rod to make sure there are no obstructions :rolleyes:. Then when it came to the night shoot with nvgs and peq 4’s, I put all my rounds in the head of the target (all you need to do is hit it) and was threatened with having to requal.
The whole process was agonizingly slow and it took about 10 hours to do shotgun pistol and rifle quals.
EDIT: The qual was for a Security Forces unit.
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That’s just sad. I thought Army range-isms were bad, but that’s got us beat.
Ripping on stupid policies put in place by pantywaist politicians _ not the AF. This country would be a safer place if all our servicemen were actually trained how to fight and armed at all times (they weren’t partying).
I’m an AF veteran (Cold War, ECM/ELING SR-71 & U2) but I could shoot when I got there.
They wanted us to keep our personal weapons locked up at the AP armory. I did that for the first month, then told them I was keeping them at a buddy’s apartment off base. They were really in my locker in my barracks room.
When I saw that film clip I flashed back to those Walker Texas Ranger Episodes where the bad guys went after victims and Walker with Ruger 77s with no sights or optics at all. Scary…
Now I’m rethinking. Maybe it’s a clever Psyops ploy to make our enemies think our warfighters are hitting them in the head in the dark using the front sights only…
It’s no a matter of cost. It’s a matter of politics. They completely demill all sorts of weapons that are no longer in use rather than selling off non-registered parts for the same reason.
Not only does this create jobs, it negates the possibility that any of the parts (i.e.: the removable carrying handle) can be used in a rifle that is used in a crime. Our tax money at work!! :rolleyes:
I hope the media keeps making us look bad in our weapons training program. Maybe leadership will get fed up (just like the PT program we use to have) and send us through proper training.
I heard that the bicycles have been taken away.
Actually no. People on waiver that can’t complete the regular test have to use the bicycle.
You mean like the Marines? I’m an Army veteran who thought General Gray got it right.
Tell me about it. It’s ridiculous how common that is, though a lot of the 03XXs tend to only do it for armory storage, thank Crom. For the rest, whenever we kick a huge “WTF?” over this during instruction, citing wasted rail space, weight forward, and the likelihood that the thing will just get damaged, some of them look at us like we have great, big wangs growing out of the middle of our foreheads.
As much as I applaud the Marines for issuing a good optic I don’t understand why they don’t also provide a good solid BUIS as well. That would solve the problem. They don’t need to destroy the carry handles they could simply be marked and put away until needed.
Are you referring to the 615th Contingency Response Wing (CRW) from Travis AFB, CA? Can you post a link to the video you saw?
The Dude posted a link on the first page, post #9
FRONTSIGHT!!!
Well, then Corporate Marine Corps wouldn’t get to spend our allotted $.07 of the DoD dollar on, oversized, cumbersome MTVs, the EFV, or even something actually worth the money, like re-structuring our KD ranges into meters to support our primary optic, particularly since we fight in meters, mils are directly mated to meters, our maps are in meters yadda yadda.
You’re own suggestion makes entirely too much sense, and will not be tolerated.
I’d always found that I was my own best SupO/OrdO, and that’s the message I push to the smarter Marines. Been using Troys for some time.
Hell, this whole NATION would be better off if all adults were always armed wether .mil or not
It’s not limited to the cops or other support AFSC’s. What ever the reason you will see PJ/CCT/TACP doing the same stuff. Inert weapons (blue guns) get used a lot also.
I would guess that at different stages during the training you need not to be worried about a certain piece of equipment but incorporate it at a latter stage. i.e; learn the take down/search and then add your weapons training in at a different stage. That is the problem with vid clips and pics; you only get part of the story.
sorry for the big pic…
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