i'm about to give up on looking for handguards.

i’ve been trying to get the correct handguard for my model 3 stag but no luck. the problem is that the top rail of my surefire m73 handguard does not line up with top of my stag upper . does anybody know or have an idea of which handguard lines up with the stag so that it will align correctly with my upper?

Knight Armament, or go to a free float system.

Knight Armament, or go to a free float system.

any Knight Armament will do?

I can’t look at my work rifle at the moment but it is a USG SOPMOD M4 with a Knight RIS handguard, later I will look, I think there is an NSN on it. The RIS is the same height as the M4 flattop on my rifle.

KAC is same plane… i’d bet the DD easy-CARs are too, but i don’t know. but why does it matter, if i may ask?

KAC is same plane… i’d bet the DD easy-CARs are too, but i don’t know. but why does it matter, if i may ask?

the reason is because i bought a troy mrf rail that didn’t line up plus the shop told me that it won’t work because i will need to buy a 20 inch barrel as well as changing my upper to accomadate the troy rail.

no… my question is, why do you want them to/care if they line up?

some things aren’t adding up here, though…

what EXACTLY do you have, and what exactly do you want? we should just start from the beginning

If I might ask, what is your trying to accomplish?

From your last post, I honestly have no clue.

Edit…

Ok, I see from another thread, that you have a Stag Arms Model 3. This is the Carbine length hand guard, with the railed gas block.

You had ordered a Troy Battle Rail, 9" (for mid-lengths). This isn’t going to work unless you change your gas block to a low profile version.

So, is there some reason you are looking for a continuous top rail? If you are, I’d suggest the Daniel Defense Omega Rail. You could put it on at home, locks up well, doesn’t require removal of the delta ring, and would give you the continuous top rail.

As a side note, it is best to not bridge optics from the top of the upper receiver to the hand guard. If that is what your intent is. If it’s just looks, this should work for you.

I would like the rail on my handguard and the rail on my upper receiver to line up correctly making it look like one continuous rail. I have a stag model 3 and a surefire m73 handguard. in my inital post with the pic, the handguard rail is lower than my upper receiver rail. my question is that what quadrail can I purchase so that it lines up with my upper receiver? thats what I’m trying to accomplish.

i think youll need a free floating handguards for that. drop in usually dont.

he wants the upper and the handguards to have the same plane.

indeed… i’m not aware of any drop-in rail that simulates a monorail.

the closest you’re gonna get is the DD Omega… it’s a drop-in free-floater http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=109

the RAS is same plane- i guarantee it. but it doesn’t mono out.

Even my Ergo Z Rail is same plane. I suspect there’s something going on with that Stag upper…

Why? Even on the Surefire website the M73 in their pics doesn’t line up “same plane” as the upper… http://www.surefire.com/M73-AR-M4-Picatinny-Forend

and be continuous it sounds like.

The question is “why?”

I have to admit I didn’t look, but I had always assumed all drop-ins were same plane. Kinda like assuming tires are black and round.

I have to admit I didn’t look, but I had always assumed all drop-ins were same plane. Kinda like assuming tires are black and round.

i totally agree with HeavyDuty! i purchased the m73 at the shop when i picked up the stag from them. i should’ve checked the plane when i was there, big mistake! i always thought that manufacturers made their rails to match up with the uppers out there. next time i’ll be more aware. it looks like i’ll be going with the dd omega. thank you all for your help! much appreciated.

Surefire M73 was actually designed to be slightly below the receiver to allow for laser/light mounting IIRC.
Daniel Defense Omega provides a “bridge” to give a continuous appearance.

This is correct. The Surefire rails do not line up with the upper receiver because, by sitting lower, it gives you a better view of your FSB. I think it was an attempt at getting a military contract. Otherwise, I’m not a fan of Surefire rails.

But if the rails work for you, why do you want to ditch them?

Do you want to create a monolithic appearance or do you simply want the top rail to line up with the rail on the receiver?

For drop-in rails, if you want a monolithic appearance, look at the DD Omega and EZ Car rails. If you just want it to line up, look at the KAC RAS, Troy MRF-DI, or Ergo Z Rail.