If you could only have one rifle, which one and why?

For SHTF. Engagements of varying distances, out to 500 yds max.
Ammo would be MK318 until my stash ran out (currently have 1250 rounds), then some Federal GM SMK 69gr (about 200 rounds) then whatever M193 and M855 I have on hand (about another 300-400 of each), then whatever I could scavenge/scrounge.

My absolute, bug-out SHTF plan is to meet 3-4 friends and their families at one my friends’ mountain cabin, 10 miles outside town. He has this great 2 level cabin on 5 acres, with a nice, 6 foot stone wall around it - pretty secure. None of us have military experience, but two are LEOs, and I’ve taken about 30 hours of private rifle instruction on shooting on the move, prone, manipulation of the weapon, trigger control, etc.
Use for the rifle would be “all purpose”: protecting the cabin, carrying while doing perimeter checks to repair fences, check out noises etc, carrying while scavenging, maybe even hunting deer or smaller antelope if I had the right ammo (I have 100 rounds of TSX 55gr specifically stashed for this purpose, which should work on our small NM Antelope).

Also for use in non-SHTF situation as a “something triggered my ADT alarm and dogs are barking at midnight” gun, with a 400 lumen Fenix white light.

The contenders are:

Rifle 1
Bravo Company
16" ELW-F 1159E middy barrel (chromed)
13" KMR FF rail
Stock trigger, stock BCG
TR24 1-4x24 green triangle scope

Rifle 2
Daniel Defense MK12
18" Stainless barrel (CHF, nitrided)
12" AR Lite III FF rail
Geissele SSA 2 stage
TR24 1-4x24 green triangle scope

Whatcha guys think? and why?

Swap triggers and take #1.

Lighter is better.

I don’t believe I’ve seen a thread like this on M4carbine.net but I have seen it on other forums.

I’d choose a KAC SR-15 not one of your choices. Out of your choices it would be the BCM.

I agree, the difference in weight is substantial. Just worried that a pencil barrel wouldn’t be accurate past 200 yards. ANy experience with this guys?

More info here: One AR ONLY. What would yours look like?

Yeah, we can’t have duplicate threads! Heaven forbid TWO posters have the same idea for a topic!!!

I would look at #1 with a different optic. I would think 500 would be difficult with that reticle. May want to look at vortex and leupold offerings 1-4 as they seem better suited for long range and low light.

AK-74 coupled to a 45rd mag(s) packed with 7N6! This I bet you’ve probably never heard of> “Colt M4” w/14.5" bbl hooked-up w/ 60 & 100rd Surefire Mag(s) packed tight w/M855 Greenies!

But that 16" ELW-F barrel would be accurate at that range? Thats my main concern withrifle 1.

You’re overthinking this. Most of your engagements will be under 300 in SHTFTEOTWAWKI

Markm was tagging targets at 1k yards with his ELW.

Personally Id do an A4 rifle. Good rear flip up and an ACOG. Plus a carry handle rear sight. Forend would be a KAC RAS.

Fairly light and about as rugged as you can get.

If I can switch lowers, then rifle 1 with the lower from rifle 2, for the trigger. Otherwise rifle 1. Not a fan of the triangle reticle however.

I think my Colt M4/LE6920 Magpul edition would be fine. I have a Burris 1.5-6x40 on it for longer distance work, and a QD mount to go quickly to the irons. No do-dads hanging off of it. Light and handy.

You will see that a lot around here…you learn to just smile and wave.

I would probably love a Sopmod Block II clone fully operator status even though I’m a complete poser.

Rifle #2 actually sounds a little better to me, personally. If the house sits on 5 (un-wooded) acres, that rifle seems more accurate for the longer distances, with its longer barrel and better trigger.

This right here. Lighter is the way to go. Get The BCM and add the SSA when funds permit.

Sounds familiar…

  1. Arsenal SRL 107fr
  2. Colt 6920

The point wasn’t that similar threads can’t coexist – it was that the last thread of this type went pear shaped and got closed and history tends to repeat itself.

Also, you might want to conserve your exclamation marks for when the SHTF. :wink:

Why wouldn’t a lightweight barrel be accurate past 200 yards? Unless you’re talking under sustained fire where accuracy loss comes on a little faster in a lightweight barrel due to faster heating; otherwise, I’m not aware of a lightweight barrel being less inherently accurate, especially at a relatively near range like 200 yards.