I found this argument rather amusing in regards to Jenner's Award.

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http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/07/16/watch-tur-threatens-to-send-shapiro-home-in-an-ambulance-during-jenner-discussion/

Pinsky continued, “In terms of the science behind gender disphoria, you’re very familiar with that, Zoey. It’s not about the…chromosomes within our nuclei.” Tur responded, “We both know chromosomes don’t necessarily mean you’re male or female.” And “you have a thing like Klinefelter’s syndrome. So, [turning to Shapiro and touching his shoulder] you don’t know what you’re talking about, you’re not educated on genetics –.” Shapiro asked if the discussion was supposed to be on genetics and asked, “What are your genetics, sir?” Pinsky said to Tur, “I’d stay away from the genetics and back to the brain scans.”

Tur then said to Shapiro, “You cut that out now, or you’ll go home in an ambulance.” Shapiro responded, “That seems mildly inappropriate for a political discussion.” Oduolowu said that, to be fair, Shapiro was being rude, to which Shapiro answered, “I’m sorry, it’s not rude to say that someone who’s biologically a male is a male.” Tur stated, “You just called me a ‘sir.'”

I’m just not sure anymore who the Bullies are anymore, but I think that I would have socked someone in the nose.

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Tur then said to Shapiro, “You cut that out now, or you’ll go home in an ambulance.”

“Take your best shot, sweetheart…”

Tur, only rhymes with ‘her’. Is it a character in a “Conan Barbarian” movie?

If we get to decide who and what we are, I would have made everyone refer to me as “Your Eminence”, since I actually have a chance of being a Pope.

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The Shapiro guy was making good, solid points. It just goes back to the fact that you can have whatever opinion that you want as long as it’s the same as the Liberal hivemind. If not, you are the worst person on the planet. No one gives a **** about these issues, they only care about how they look to the PC brainwashed masses.

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Well I’m questioning the whole “Or you’ll go home in an ambulance” thing.
The whole Lesbian, Gay,Transsexual, Bisexual, movement was built upon the idea that they weren’t given equal rights to live their lives with the same freedoms as the rest of us.
The idea that in the middle of a political debate a transsexual person would threaten a straight guy for debating an issue kind of shows their true colors. Now that they have won, the have become the very type of Bullies they have railed against all of these years.
I’m just thinking that if in the middle of a debate you threaten to send me to the hospital, I’m going to sucker punch you so damned hard you fall out of your Men’s size eleven high heels and fall off of the stage.
The whole you can’t punch a girl thing doesn’t work when you’ve self corrected your plumbing and issued some threats.

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Exactly. And no one except for Shapiro made an issue out of the threat. That blonde bimbo, and the other guy just sat there and were like “you provoked him with your insensitive comments!” What a double standard, like you said.

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All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others…

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Even ancient rome failed to reach the level of stupidity that we are at now.

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Yes, but if you were turned from a Bull to a Steer in ancient Rome, it was most likely not self induced.
I have no issue with someone’s lifestyle choices, they are welcome to hack away at their offending body parts as they choose. The idea that after they do so we all have to deny the science and celebrate the butchery, I find that a bit odd.
Now however, if we don’t celebrate the hacking away of offending male appendages, someone with a five o’clock shadow, a bad dress and high heels will threaten to send you to the hospital. How quaint that those who professed to be vilified and have unending prejudices placed against them win a little victory they are so quick to become the bully.
Jenner is a freak show, I have no doubt that life in that “Family” drove him to an insanity where his masculinity eventually even offended him.

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http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/07/17/inside-editions-zoey-tur-wants-to-see-ben-shapiro-curb-stomped/
Tur is a biological male who identifies as a woman. He is also a special correspondent for Inside Edition.

Curb-stomping is a practice made infamous by American Nazi skinheads.

Ben Shapiro is Jewish.

Breitbart News again calls for the removal of the fascist, gay-pride flag, a symbol of bullying and intolerance, to be removed from civil society.

This was never about live and let live, folks.

I’m just not sure why charges haven’t been filed or Inside Edition hasn’t fired Tur (d)

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Progressives are scum. They crave the power to unleash and impose their ideology on everyone, at all costs.
This is just another in a long line of examples of how nothing will stand in their way. Laws, decency, the Constitution. Nothing.

If a “conservative”, or anyone not a hardcore leftist or of a protected identity group, threatened someone like this, the panel would have been outraged and charges laid.
The law does not seem to apply to Leftist progressives, though.

Shapiro had perfectly valid and factual points. The problem was that those facts didn’t fit the narrative and hurt a Leftist’s feelings.

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If someone insisted that you were a woman and insisted that they could prove it scientifically, you wouldn’t have a bit of a freak out?

I know people who are transsexual (I’m related by blood to one). Particularly early on in the process of their treatment they can be very, very touchy about their gender. It is worth baring in mind that they are, in essence, undergoing puberty again, and may be prone to all the stupidity that accompanies that particular period of life.

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I’m more of a Lightroom than Photoshop guy, but I’m visualizing one of the recent NASA close-ups of Pluto with a word bubble coming off that says, “I don’t care what Neil deGrasse Tyson knows, I identify as a planet.”

“No planet status, no peace…”

“The term ‘Dwarf Planet’ is a micro-orbit aggression.”

“Icy planets matter.”

Pluto to the Sun: “Dwell I but in the suburbs. Of your good pleasure?”

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I do find it laughable that one of those who belongs to a group that wants tolerance and is supposed to be against violence and bullying, resorts to the exact same thing when he doesn’t hear what he expects.

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You’re kind of making Sapiro’s point that it’s a mental issue, not one of physiology.

I don’t care whether Tur got offended or not, it should be shitcanned for making a serious threat of grave bodily injury. :frowning:

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Well, they would be wrong. Facts are facts.

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Homosexuality, transgenderism, etc. are the result of mental illness, delusion, and/or foreign entities.

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Wow…

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/17/ben_shapiro_tries_and_spectacularly_fails_to_humiliate_trans_woman_zoey_tur_what_are_your_genetics_sir/

Was Shapiro in the legal right? Yes. Was he in the moral or ethical right? No. And there comes a time where legality must be challenged by righteous assertion. Should Tur have made that comment, no. Should she have followed through and done violence to him if he persisted? That is her decision, but there comes a time where an individual must take a stand and say enough is enough! I will not tolerate this crude and uncivilized behavior any longer, and I will employ violence and accept all the consequences of it, because my action is right and yours is wrong.

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Regarding the comment in bold - this is a standard characteristic of a progressive - feelings trump facts. Emotions rule in their world. Those whose lives are dominated by emotion are mentally imbalanced, irrational and dangerous. To them, “feelings” justify any and ALL acts.

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I’m not familiar with Tur so I just googled him/her/whatever. If I was to cast all this last furor aside, I’d say overall he/she/whatever hasn’t wasted the air he/she/whatever has been breathing:

Other noteworthy reporting included the attack on Reginald Denny during the 1992 Los Angeles riots. (If I remember correctly the helicopters presence filming gave the attacker pause and folks on the ground intervened)

[i]Tur piloted a AS-350B Eurocopter helicopter through 60 knot winds, at night, to airlift stranded tourists from 22 foot seas that pounded apart their hotel, the Portofino Inn. Timing the interval of the waves, Tur and Byron Alperstein, the camera operator, made a dozen near zero visibility takeoffs and landings without losing a single victim. Both Tur and Alperstein received numerous awards for their heroism.

During a Katyusha rocket attack, Tur’s television news crew found a 19 year-old soldier trapped in his crushed automobile. With the soldier unconscious, and not breathing, Tur, who had been shooting a documentary for an American satellite news operation, performed an emergency tracheotomy, intubating the man and restoring his breathing. The rescue, which was caught on tape by another reporter, aired as part of a news package dealing with life on the Israeli-Lebanon border.

In the months following the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico (April 2010) by BP, Tur conducted studies to locate the submerged oil that threaten the sealife swimming through hydrocarbon plumes deep below the Gulf. Tur tracked up to 1,400 square miles (3,600 km2) a day for the Mississippi Canyon 252/Deepwater Horizon (MS252) toxins, results confirmed by Ken Lukins, BP’s consulting director of their High Interest Technology Test (HITT) Team, but despite the results that could keep neurotoxin dosed fish, and crabs from those that consume Gulf seafood, BP was unwilling to green light Tur’s helicopter-based sensor program.[/i]

Now, with the exception of the first, the above examples don’t have citations, so?

Being a fairly normal heterosexual male, reading this snippet: Tur’s 23-year marriage to Marika Gerrard came to an end in 2003 made me curious as to if anyone has contacted ol’ Marika to see if Tur was an enthusiastic male in the sack. Why? Seems to me from what I’ve read the guy is an adrenaline junky, maybe a small chance this is a manifestation of that in today’s world?

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26 Inf,

Are you suggesting Tur had his equipment removed (plus hormone replacement therapy and all the other stuff these guys go through to become a pseudo-female) because he thought doing this would be like sort of climbing Mount Everest?

If your suggestion is true, I guess writers like Chuck Palahniuk aren’t far off the mark…

P.S. His threat to send Ben Shapiro home in an ambulance wasn’t very lady like, but then he ain’t no lady!