Hurricane security contracting

General General Discussion
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Has anyone here worked as a security contractor during/after a major hurricane?

I am looking at working part time for a local company that is getting set up to try and get contracts for security after a bad storm here in SC and possible other areas as well. I have met the guys that will be running the show and they are a good group of guys, so I am thinking about putting my name in the hat for available people should a bad storm hit and they get work. I am just curious as to if any of you guys have done any of this kind of work before and your opinions of it.

If so, how was it?
How long were you away when you worked?
Was the money good?

Pros/cons?

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Hootie

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i may get flamed for this but. if a disaster hits ga. and they order you to confiscate guns like they did in new orleans, call in sick

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yo hootie, this isnt the by any chance, Sgt Smith from Shaw AFB in Sc is it? if so email me at lockdownx99@yahoo.com .

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A little off track. Sorry.

? Would confiscating guns from law abiding citizens be in violation to 2nd Amendment?

Or are there exceptions to the Constitution?

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Yup but they did during Katrina. They also beat some 1 billion year old Old Lady up for her gun as well.

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I haven’t

I would reconsider as there’s alot of variables.

Who are you working with?
What training has been provided?
If contracting, take a serious look at the said contract-you might be high and dry for the most minute issue.
Constitutional issues as stated and also Use of Force concerns
Liabilities incurred for you and all

That’s some of them.

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Firearms were also stolen, damaged and confiscated during the big tornado in Kansas last year as well.

I imagine the same was happening in Iowa this year, too.

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I own and operate a security company here in Texas set up to supply personel for the oil industry in the event of a hurricane/terrosist incident. Just missed out on Dolly hitting too far south. Any Texas LEO’s interested PM me…

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you would think after katrina incident this crap wouldnt happen anymore.

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Havent worked a ND as a private security contractor but I have worked along side them during a natural disaster. To be honest I think they had it harder than we did. I always had at least a fire team with me at all times. Some places just had one guy sitting there with a .38/.357 by his lonesome with no back up in sight and relief not coming until the end of his shift.

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No I wouldn’t. Americans have a disease called Ignorance, Arrogance and Apathy (IAA). Just be sure to get your yearly innoculation and you’ll be fine. :slight_smile:

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i long for the day where someone approaches my house and tells me that im going to surrender the only tool i have to protect my family and my belongings from the idiots out there. i pray that someone attempts this. my plan of having security cameras and intercoms will help me to prevent this, even though they will be meant for intruders. so when they say " we are here to take your firearms" i will be ready with an arsenal to prove them wrong. and then i will take their weapons and add them to my collection. in my opinion, anyone who follows an order such as this one, much less the twit that gives it, is no better than the crackhead looters that are ripping off the good citizens. note that they will be treated as such reguardless of LE orientation, or military.

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You really “long” and “pray” for the day to take someones life? Or do you just “long” and “pray” for our society to break down to the point where the government deems it necessary to try and confiscate our weapons and thereby giving you a chance to use yours? Both options sound like a bad deal to me.

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As a point of clarification, contractors (at least BW contractors) didn’t confiscate anyone’s weapons during the Katrina aftermath. There are members of this board who worked contracts during that time and they can give you more information about that.

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IIRC, it was California Highway Patrol (?) who did the confiscating.

Anyhoo …

Public Law 109-295 – Oct. 4, 2006
SEC. 706. FIREARMS POLICIES

"(a) PROHIBITION ON CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS.–No officer or employee of the United States (including any member of the uniformed services), or person operating pursuant to or under color of federal law, or receiving Federal funds, or under control of any Federal official, or providing services to such an officer, employee, or other person, while acting in support of relief from a major disaster or emergency, may –

"(1) temporarily or permanently seize, or authorize seizure of, any firearm the possession of which is not prohibited under Federal, State, or local law, other than for forfeiture in compliance with Federal law or as evidence in a criminal investigation;

"(2) require registration of any firearm, or promulgate any rule, regulation, or order prohibiting posessesion of any firearm in any place or by any person where such posession is not otherwise prohibited by Federal, state, or local law; or

"(3) prohibit posession of any firearm, or promulgate any rule, regulation, or order prohibiting possession of any firearm in any place or by any person where such possession is not otherwise prohibited by Federal, State, or local law, solely because such person is operating under the direction, control, or supervision of a Federal agency in suport of relief from the major disaster or emergency.

"(b) LIMITATION.–Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit any person in subsection (a) from requiring the temporary surrender of a firearm as a condition for entry into any mode of transportation used for rescue or evacuation during a major disaster or emergency, provided that such temporarily surrendered firearm is returned at the completion of such rescue or evacuation.

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thats not too shocking tbh

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Public Law 109-295 – Oct. 4, 2006
SEC. 706. FIREARMS POLICIES

"(a) PROHIBITION ON CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS.–No officer or employee of the United States (including any member of the uniformed services), or person operating pursuant to or under color of federal law, or receiving Federal funds, or under control of any Federal official, or providing services to such an officer, employee, or other person, while acting in support of relief from a major disaster or emergency, may –

"(1) temporarily or permanently seize, or authorize seizure of, any firearm the possession of which is not prohibited under Federal, State, or local law, other than for forfeiture in compliance with Federal law or as evidence in a criminal investigation;

"(2) require registration of any firearm, or promulgate any rule, regulation, or order prohibiting posessesion of any firearm in any place or by any person where such posession is not otherwise prohibited by Federal, state, or local law; or

"(3) prohibit posession of any firearm, or promulgate any rule, regulation, or order prohibiting possession of any firearm in any place or by any person where such possession is not otherwise prohibited by Federal, State, or local law, solely because such person is operating under the direction, control, or supervision of a Federal agency in suport of relief from the major disaster or emergency.

"(b) LIMITATION.–Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit any person in subsection (a) from requiring the temporary surrender of a firearm as a condition for entry into any mode of transportation used for rescue or evacuation during a major disaster or emergency, provided that such temporarily surrendered firearm is returned at the completion of such rescue or evacuation.

So am I reading this wright, in that (b) cancells out (a), (1), (2), and (3)?
Or can someone expain what I am missing?:confused:

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…no (b) is just for access onto federal vehicle for relocation…also states weapon must be returned after dismounting vehicle…I think…

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You guys might be digging a little too deep into this. The security contracting gig is suppose to be guarding shopping malls and other places of interest, making sure they are not looted or worse. I don’t think there were any private firms going around during Katrina depriving people of their rights, I may be wrong, but I don’t think so.

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Hootie,

No you are not wrong. I highly doubt that anyone here can give any concrete proof of BW, SOC-SMG, Dyn or any other group that was involved with Katrina confiscating weapons. Is it possible that a few guys may have been present with another group when it was happening? Sure, but for the most part all groups on the contractor side of the house were there providing security to various groups (FEMA) or they were contracted to protect high value areas and property.