How WWIII starts.

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The United States of America continues to implode due to the irony of the perversion of freedom in the name and safety of freedom.

China continues to flex it’s new military arms, having already successfully flexed both it’s economic (cheap labor production garnering insanely favorable trade, either officially or unofficially) and technological (international espionage through hacking) ones. They continue to instigate in the South China seas with their man made islands and new claims of territory and ensuing territorial disputes. Eventually, they tick off someone for real, either through their own direct military action or another country getting fed up enough to call them out on it officially and ‘force’ china to act militarily.

If this happens before the Republicans (or political right) wins what is almost certainly their last Presidential election, the current admnistration will perform tried and true actions of sending diplomats to meet with other diplomats to exchange vigorous handy-j’s for pillow talk promises.

If this happens after the Republicans (or political right) win the next Presidential election, the USA immediately gets involved.

Russia backs China officially or unofficially, sooner or later. Edward ‘Herpes’ Snowden’s handywork flares up once more to embarrass the US. Russia’s Pacific fleet will be mobilized for ‘joint training missions’ with China. Long range bombers will perform US Airspace and Russian subs will perform US soverign waters penetration excercises at an increased rate. If someone in Europe starts to talk about it all, the valves of pipes leading to Europe will quietly start to close in the background. When people stop talking about it, the valves open, though not exactly as open as they were before.

Meanwhile, while the problems in the Pacific escalate, the Middle Eastern Mambo continues on.

And then it happens.

Iran finally achieves nuclear bomb capability and the missile capability necessary to use it.

Due to the lack of any affectual change despite calling for it for years, Israel decides it’s now or never and launches a full scale blitzkrieg to crush Iran’s nuclear capability before it can now actually be immediately used.

Or they decide to accept the role of martyr, they await the inevitable, the iron dome just happens to fail at intercepting a threat that one time.

The blast(s) violently rip the needle across and off the mambo record.

Even those that have worked towards or desired this with evey fiber of their being give way to pause.

And then it begins.

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I have been waiting for some sort of flashpoint for some time.

It’s difficult to say if it will happen with Russia, China, ISIS, or someone else.

Then it hit me: it’s all going to go at once.

I have been planning for everything from high gas prices to rationing, ammo shortages, and the like.

I just don’t see the world extricating itself from what is about to be a perfect storm of everybody fighting everybody.

We are months away from our lives being changed, maybe for the remainder of our lifetimes, and most people carry on as if Bruce Jenner is the most important story in the news.

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Didn’t yemen rebels launch a scud at Saudi arabia a couple of days ago? That is a new level that I dont think got enough press.

Russia will destabilize easten Europe to the point where the populations will beg the Russians back, except for Poland. They are done with that crap.

The only thing more predictable than lame US allies losing and U.S. abandoning them is Eurowennies appeasing strong men to avoid a fight.

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I wonder if what we had in WWII in Europe was going on today ?

sadly the belief in freedom wont be coming from the USA anymore so I think this time it just might die and the nazis of today whoever that might be will win

so sadly WWIII the bad guys might win because of our pussification of our country and its leaders

hope it turns around and we get someone with some backbone and smarts and maybe pull back our troops and support our country and if anyone touches us destroy them and then take whatever we can to repay :slight_smile:

no more war and then we keep paying to rebuild other countries !

but I sadly live in a fantasy land thinking this will ever happen !

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Somebody…Israel maybe?..could have set off a tactical nuke in Yemen. I saw the video and the blast definitely ends in a mushroom cloud. I’m not SME on battlefield ordnance, but the explosion looks tantalizingly atomic.

Meanwhile, we are moving missiles into Eastern Europe to…what…SCARE the Russians?

They were willing to sacrifice millions of people to lure Hitler into overextending himself in World War II.

The Russians wrote the book on sacrificing to win a war.

Meanwhile, Barry and the whole rotten crew on Capital Hill are more worried about transgender rights in the military and in getting ANY deal with Iran.

Oh, and by the way, Iran still plans to annihilate Israel at the first opportunity. IDF ain’t gonna let that happen no matter what Barry offers them to play nice.

You also don’t hear about Turkey starting to flex its influence and the fact that it’s becoming more and more Islamic.

How long before it becomes NATO’s enemy instead of its friend, and joins the Islamic Jihad in a fight against the west?

Let’s not even mention the fact that we don’t have the balls to stand up to China because we literally owe them enough money that we will never repay it. Those people living in Taiwan had better start making nice in what they say about the mainland.

But I guess it’s all good as long as Bruce Jenner is happy wearing a dress.

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I agree that the scud attack, while luckily ineffectual, recieved a lot less understanding than it deserves.

Turkey continues to be Europe’s worst nightmare. Spain, Italy and Greece may be economic nightmares, but Turkey (and Northern Africa) is(are) a fare scarier cultural one. Want to make a remark about Istanbul still not being called Constantinople should be a red flag, but it’s beside the point at this point in history.

China will have an ‘America’s Going out of Business, Everything must go!’ liquidation sale the likes of which even the mysterious Belgium buyer won’t be able to absorb (at least without exposing themselves).

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You guys think there will be a breaking point?

Or, will it be like boiling frogs. Gradually turn up the heat, not suddenly, then we are cooked.

It’s hard for me to imagine a total WROL or SHTF type scenario. It seems to me that TPTB will make all attempts to have TOTAL control (ie, the NRA thread topics) and people will have to make a choice.
I think, MOST people will do whatever they’re told. I really don’t see a FTS type scenario and ‘Patriots’ (3%'s, etc) start flipping out and turn the US into a war zone.

I think, each decision that every man makes he will attempt to determine if “the juice is worth the squeeze” so to say.
Is the sacrifice worth the choice… or is it still easier to go along with whatever is being shoved down our throats?

Regardless, my constituents are ready as can be. I would honestly say we are more ready than the majority of the US population.
Which makes our biggest problem to be how to protect it from everyone that wants it. Or us. In camps.

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I tell my Jewish friends that the attack on ‘Wall Street’ and the “1%” is basically code words for ‘Jews’. They give me odd looks and I give them odd looks back. It seems every European city I visit, there is the historical Jewish quarter and you learn that they basically persecuted the Jews attacks about every 100-150 years. The Nazi’s were just more organized and industrial at it. Why do people think that things have changed?

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And ‘thug’ and ‘gangster’ are code for black people?

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

That being said, people do have a deep and abiding hatred for bankers. Many of these bankers were, of course, historically Jews, so much of the ire that Jews suffered in times past - thanks to usury laws grounded in religion (Christians could not lend money to Christians with interest and Jews could not lend money to Jews with interest - but Jews surely could lend money to Christians) - was not just on account of being outsiders, but being bankers as well.

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yeah I cant figure out why the modern Jewish folks vote dem and are so left when the left hates them ?
and in Europe what is happening is scary again ! and they seem to ignore it or think some other way of saying its isolated etc…

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What if they already have it?
What if they figured out long ago that it would be simply cheaper to work out a deal with a willing partner/nation to simply buy what they want. Perhaps they’ve done it years ago and have had a nuke for a long time.
At the same time they keep just enough of their nuclear program alive to play the boogeyman. Everyone focuses on that, and they get to run around gathering riches and concessions from people trying to essentially buy them out of the nuke game. It’s a win all around for them…
This was actually not my idea- there was a pretty interesting article on this theory somewhere out there on a web news site. It seems to make a lot of sense if you think about it.

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Apart from practically imploding their economy due to sanctions.

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Well what is referred to as WWIII will be brought about by the world’s oldest banking cabal. While they pose as Jews and have since the 18th century, they’re really Khazars.

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I knew it was Khazar Soze all the time…

I thought the Cold War was WWIII, the war on Terrorism was WWIV- so this would be WWV - or does that get even more confusing with the whole WWF and the world wildlife fund and what every red blooded American knows should refer to wrestling. Which isn’t actually wresting, or is that actually difficult to talk about with the whole Hastert thing?

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I honestly don’t believe Iran itself will be the ones to ‘launch’. They are too enthralled with being both lead and follow in the mambo as well as playing three card monte (and flat out refusing to show the card when guessed correctly) with inpectors.

I believe that they will let it out into the wild with someone else to take the action and blame leaving them in the clear, or at least with deniability.

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We are not going to see any peer to peer conflicts ladies and gentlemen.

Everyone talks shit and acts tough. The consequences are too great for all. It’s the strength of our modern military and everyone else’s coupled with nuclear arms. That’s what insures the peace. Yeah, there will be skimishes, but your not going to see us or nato get into it with the Russians or Chinese.

MAD is solid. Look how long it’s worked.

I agree with you guys that a lot of things is effed right now. But a shooting war between super powers, not a chance. No nation with nukes is going to go toe to toe. Proxy wars most definitely, but P2P, no chance.

If WW3 does get the punt kick off, it’ll last about an hour. Then expect an austere life for the survivors. Look to how Katrina went to get an idea of what it’ll look like. No one has balls enough to roll the dice on that one. I don’t care are loco you are.

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Arch-duke whackings and their effects are hard to predict.

Could be as simple as a unseen asteroid with multiple impacts spooking the Indians, Pakastanis or NKs.

Iran isn’t going to use the bomb anymore than the NKs will. That is all about regime change. The delta is the difference between being a Kim Jong Un and Khadaffi.

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Radical Islamists do not subscribe to the MAD doctrine. In their view the world must be thrown into chaos in order for the Mahdi to appear and restore order (under an Islamic caliphate, of course).

We are not dealing with rational individuals motivated by earthly gain, but with madmen who are bent on causing destruction so that their Islamic “messiah” appears.

That is the difference between this era and the Cold War.

Russia, China, Venezuela, et al, are willing to fight conventional wars to further their means, and are rational enough to subscribe to the MAD doctrine. Not so the Islamists.

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I agree that radical Islamists don’t adhere to MAD doctrine. But, you never see the leaders do the suicide bombing. It’s always subordinates. The will to live and survive is hardwired in anything living.

It takes political or ideological conditioning to do otherwise. Even when an individual sacrifices themselves for his fellow man, it’s so that the fellow man can survive.

Survival is the bottom line. Even if the most jihad driven man in charge on the planet decides to up the ante, I’m pretty sure that they know that if they torch off a WMD, the response will be in kind.

All I’m trying to say is don’t lose sleep over the impending doom of a WW3 shooting scenario. It’s not going to happen, and if it does, you can’t do Jack about it. Just sit back, put on your shades and enjoy the light show.

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Well, I’m stocking up on supplies that might be rationed or in short supply, like ammo, emergency food, etc.

Ask an old timer what rationing in World War 2 was like. Makes you want to get a Sam’s Club card and go to town.