http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1431953436
I would especially appreciate responses from the LE community just to get some idea of whether lethal force is justified especially if ones family were present. I think it’s just good to know.
Thanks in advance
Jedi,
I live a few hours from Vegas and travel there whenever I am stateside. It is also where I happened to have obtained one of my CCW’s. Having read the Nevada Revised Statutes I am 99.99% sure that deadly force would have been legal. IIRC, Nevada does not have a duty to retreat law.
This person made all attempts to safely flee and was obviously not the aggressor.
Had this been me this guy would be wearing a .40 caliber necklace.
I’da kilt dat gangsta, yo!
With so many witnesses, I seriously doubt you would have a hard time convincing a jury you feared for your life in that situation.
It’ll be hard to convince jury that you are in any danger sitting in the car that you can just drive away and have to shot him. Instead of shooting the guy, I would just run him over “accidentally” trying to escape. 
He was on tape and armed, it wouldn’t be too hard to convince a jury. If I were in that car and I had childred/wife with me, I would have put him down.
It is ashamed as to what this world has become.
if i was in that situation in my state, i couldn’t even look at the guy without being charged for something.
how it would most likely work out for me:
id run his foot over trying to get out of the situation, i would get sued, my insurance wouldn’t cover the damage to my vehicle, and i would have to do 100 hours of community service and get a year probation for how i handled the situation.
if i was in a free state:
try to make an effort to get away and file a police report about the damage (much less paperwork and aggravation that way) if i couldn’t get away, shoot till he drops then call the police. and make damn sure i got the guy videotaping it!
but im not an LE guy so dont take my idea as the correct way to handle the situation.
Here in FL, he would have been shot dead. So to answer your question, I would have filled him so full of lead, he would be using his dick as a # 2 pencil.
I’d shoot him and sue the guy video taping for not intervening.
There is no duty to retreat in SC, and are not civilly liable if it is a righteous shoot.
-RD62
If that had been me in that vehicle, my ears would still be ringing. They weren’t able to immediately retreat. In Mississippi, your vehicle is an extension of your home, and you have the right to defend your home.
i live in mass and if some one comes into my home im better off (in a legal sense) to throw my gun at him.
Apparently you didn’t watch the tape. The person in the car attempted to get away and was in fact blocked in by another vehicle. Read the following, it seems rather clear to me.
NRS 200.120 “Justifiable homicide” defined. Justifiable homicide is the killing of a human being in necessary self-defense, or in defense of habitation, property or person, against one who manifestly intends, or endeavors, by violence or surprise, to commit a felony, or against any person or persons who manifestly intend and endeavor, in a violent, riotous, tumultuous or surreptitious manner, to enter the habitation of another for the purpose of assaulting or offering personal violence to any person dwelling or being therein.
[1911 C&P § 129; RL § 6394; NCL § 10076]—(NRS A 1983, 518)
I can’t see the vid but I’m guessing it is the one with the guy whaling on the PT Cruiser with the tire iron.
As long as he is beating on the fenders and body, he is not endangering the occupants. Once he starts on the windows, you are good to light him up, or run him down. I certain that any intelligent adult can articulate a fear of death or GBH at that point.
With the prevalence of “Castle Doctrine/No need to retreat” laws these days it is even easier.
This is based on Texas laws.
Gringop
I would have driven out of it.
FWIW, this is an old video clip which turned out to be staged. But if it were real and I was the one in that car, if I could not driv out of there or over him, I’d have no problem using lethal force once he started going after the window.
Carlos,
Thanks for the update on this. Having lived in Vegas and knowing the mindset there, had someone (owner of vehicle) confronted this person when he started beating on the car and this guy continued using reasonable articulation IAW the Nevada Revised Statutes I am 99.99% certain it would have been a good shoot.
Driving over him would be lethal force.
-RD62
LOL, you are correct sir!! I meant to say using some sort of lead injection system.
Initially, when the guy started hitting the car, the car was blocked on all sides by other cars, the curb, etc. I would have shot the guy. Who is to say what the attacker’s intent was when he started hitting the car. When you watch the whole video it’s obvious that the guy’s intent was only to damage the car. However, sitting in the car are you supposed to read the guy’s mind? If it were me I would assume that the attacker intended to do me or my family harm, with a deadly wepon no less. Given the situation I’m pretty sure I could articulate that I thought I or my family was in imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury and in Arizona that would justify the use of deadly force.
I’m with carlos iirc that was a staged scenario to try and get some point across I guess (how people can be “wipes”!?), if it where real I think that’s an easy one for the jury to get right after the lead placement.