Great… imagine the wife standing in the middle of the living room as dogs and cats (covered in mayo) are tear-assing all over the place…
“But honey, it said to do this on the Internet?”
:eek:
Great… imagine the wife standing in the middle of the living room as dogs and cats (covered in mayo) are tear-assing all over the place…
“But honey, it said to do this on the Internet?”
:eek:
Yeah dude, everyone’s a noob at something
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=2885
No no!.. no hard feelings at all K.L.D., I picked up on the mood of this forum after about 2 replies when everyone was saying…'just throw a sling on it and shoot the sh#t out of it.
It’s all good…that’s why I said ‘honestly and respectfully’ because I know most here will have real and trusted info. to share.
Thanks for the mention though.
Only thing I would change would be the Flash suppressor/Compensator…buy ammo and shoot it, see what else you want to change after you get the rifle broke in.
Detail a list of things you want, versus things you have to have to make it how you want it. Figure out what order you have to buy the items in, and start from there.
it’s expensive at first, but once you get rolling, I think you will find it rewarding and addicting.
I have one lower, and probably 5 different uppers for it already, and I have only fired my rifle once!![]()
I still fail to understand why you would want twice as many kittens as puppies on the mayonnaise gun, but to each his own.
On a more serious note, this comment …
As you have seen, the “pimp my rifle” threads don’t go over here as well as some other places, but consider that a positive – for a lot of us “fashion builds” just ain’t how we roll.
… irrevocably confirmed for me that M4CN is a place worthy of my time and interest. Thanks much, and I look forward to getting to know the terrain around here a bit better in the months to come.
Chief
I just signed on to this forum. Glad I did based on what I’ve read so far.
Last year I just had to try my hand at building my own.
It’s not an M4 but it’s still my one and only so far:
CMT A3 upper. CMT BCG.
RR lower.
16" mid length barrel, 1:7, chrome lined. .72 O.D.
Stag lower parts kit.
Magpul 93 stock.
TangoDown battle grip.
La rue mid-length quad rail for end. Some ladder rail inserts.
Single pt. Sling.
A2 flash hider.
Aimpoint ML2 w/ ARMS throw lever mount.
Flip-up front sight. GGG flip up BUIS.
The grip, stock, and ladder inserts are OD green. I thought that would look wicked.
This pimping out was not necessary, but I had to get it out of my system. Plus it was such fun, and shoots like a dream.
Now I want to build another, so , gentlemen, I would welcome some suggestions that are basic and practical.
Jeff308
My opinion:
(1.) Ditch the stock brake and have a Vortex installed.
(2.) Check the stock carrier key to make sure it’s properly staked.
(3.) Crane o-ring, HD extractor spring, black insert
(4.) HK or USGI mags
(5.) Blue Force Gear / Vickers Tactical two point sling
(6.) Mount a small piece of rail to the stock hand guards – mount a G&R WG6D/9D or Surefire 6P light.
(7.) Aimpoint M2/M3 mounted on carry handle - that’s how it was done for years and it still works fine. (You posted a picture of an A2 AR)
(8.) Cleaning kit & lube - keep it reasonably clean & VERY well lubed.
(9.) Attend a training class
(10.) Shoot the shit out of it.
VA_Dinger,
Thanks. I have an extra of the same barrel. That’s what I’ll use for the next one.
Does the Vortex screw on the same threads as the A2 flash hider?
Yes it does. You also don’t need to use the crush washer and leave the Vortex hand tight (don’t torque it on).
C4
Since I have an older Colt Ltw Sporter, I’ll relay what I’ve done to it. Ammo, mags and training being a given.
It came with a standard A2 flash suppressor, otherwise those brakes have to go.
trijicon tritum front sight
M4 handguards
GG&G slick mount w/ a surefire classic 6v weapon light w/xm switch
Boonie packer 2pt sling
Badger Ordnance genII charging handle latch
Tango down battle grip, was going to put an A1 on, but found this, like new at the gunshow, for 10 bucks. Already have one on my 6920
Repalced fixed A2 stock w/ Colt 4pos collapsible.
Fairly simple.
Eagle has a few simple chest rigs, for less the $100 that would work fine for a class.
Bob
Grant. Thanks. I may give you a call in the not-to-distant future.
Jeff
+1 Ammo, mags (a nice goal would be 20 mags) and training.
With the carbine you shown, I would just need the following:
Phantom FS
Troy BUIS
Crane O-Ring in the bolt extractor
Any good dot sight like Aimpoint or EOTech, etc and LaRue mount.
Any good tactical light mounted on my FSB or handguard.
Blue Force Gear or Specter Gear sling.
What I usually do to upgrade my most used USGI mags:
Magpul gen 2 followers
Wolff extra strength mag springs
Magpul Ranger or L-plates
A nice simple mag chest rig like my Eagle-SKD Tactical Universal MOLLE version.
I certainly hope that on one here would ever beat up on someone for building something just because they want it – everyone has a vice, and tricked out ARs aint a bad vice!
I just think you’ll find that you will not be told you need that stuff for no other purpose than to have it… If experience has shown that in a given situation, something amounts to no more than extra weight, I would hope to know the people that are willing to share that knowledge.
“Cool guy” points are great… but the trick is that they are only redeemable at certain places – to others, they mean jack shit ![]()
Here is a great, simple gun that I bet (if you build) you find yourself picking up more and more as you go shoot.
Upper and lower receiver (with associated innards)
16" medium/light profile barrel, midlength gas block and “dissy” rifle length FSB
regular old plastic handguards
M4 buttstock
“Scout” style scope mount with a decent low power scope, nothing fancy, a
good shotgun scope works great
Spray paint it your favorite color
Id add a sling, some training, and a metric ass-ton of ammo. As far as everything else goes, Id pretty much keep it stock. Except for that horrible blasphemous item at the end of the barrel. For all that is good in the world, remove it and put an A2 on there. ![]()
I couldn’t agree more!
Upper and lower receiver (with associated innards)
16" medium/light profile barrel, midlength gas block and “dissy” rifle length FSB.
What type upper? A regular A2 w/ carry handle? Also, forgive me, but I am unable to visualize a mid. gas block.
Does 'dissy" mean disseminator? And “dissy” rifle lenght FSB is confusing (no offense meant).
The barrel I have is a mid lenght with a standard FSB in the midlength position.
“Scout” style scope mount with a decent low power scope, nothing fancy, a
good shotgun scope works great
.
Would you explain about the scout style scope mount? How it looks and mounts, and who makes 'em. I have a Burris 2.75 with Leupold QD rings that are low mounts. Would this work?
And, BTW, thank you. This config. sounds real interesting.
Jeff
That particular rifle was one I built from PLA supply (parts laying around), some years back I had an idea to have some 16" barrels made with the FSB mounted for full length handguards and a gas block at the midlength position under the handguards (dissipator style)… they were not realy popular then though ![]()
So I built a rifle with an A4 upper (generic), I think it was RRA lower with an older M4 stock, cavarms hand guards, and that was about all.
The scope mount (iirc) was from RRA and was a hacked version of their “scout” mount that had room for a folding rear sight… I stuck a 4X “shotgun” scope on it and gave it a nice coat of some flat green spray paint form the hardware store.
That simple, but it was a treat to shoot…
Thank you,sir.
I understand now. I’ll have a look at RR’s scout mount and see if this will work on a mid length (with mid. hand guards).
Jeff