Reading another thread about concealing firearms and what someone posted about everywhere but their work reminded me of a topic I was curious about. How many people refuse to work at a place that has a clear anti-gun policy? In other words, you have your permit and plan to carry for the occasional crazy that comes into your work to shoot the place up yet your employee manual states that it’s forbidden. Do you take the job or do you keep looking? Personally I won’t leave my life in the hands of anyone, secure area or not unless they want to put multiple trained and armed guards in the room. I just don’t think it’s worth it especially with all that’s going on in this day and age.
I’m curious what you’re take is on it. Do you put your beliefs on the back burner for a paying job and just how much of a salary would it take for you to give you your right to protect yourself?
My last job had that as a policy anyway, larger corporation with secure key-card offices but I still knew how unstable some of the people were who had key cards for the office so as far I was concerned ‘No weapons’ meant the same as ‘Don’t ask don’t tell’ but w/o the gayness.
Just curious what other people’s takes were on this.
you sir are a utter moron! and offend the fuck out of me. I’ve been unemployed for nearly 8 months now ( they closed my factory ) bending over backwards looking for a job with no luck.
and to have your paranoid ass quit a good job because you can’t carry 24/7…ya know, words fail me right now cause I’m so pissed as I type this over the stupidy of doing something like this.
PLEASE POST THE NAME AND ADDRESS OF THIS COMPANY SO I CAN APPLY THERE!!!
despite the most resent news of the latest shooting, you still have a much greater chance of being killed in a car crash on your way to work, then being shot at work.
sorry if my rant offends anyone, but thats how I feal.
I know a guy that recently took a job making $77K a year who is very into 2A and shooting. He carried regularly. But, the new job required not only that he had no firearm on him, but also in his car or truck. He parks in a private parking lot owned by the company and has security checkpoints, metel detectors, explosives detectors and more that he passes through each day. He is not thrilled about not being able to leave his pistol in the car/truck, but for the sake of family and income he signed the contracts and agreed to the rules.
A man has to provide for his family, if that means taking the personal risk of being unarmed… he should do what it takes to provide and be a good father/husband. It would be selfish to take away from your family only to provide for your personal protection… you have to look at the big picture. A single man would be more apt to make a stand on this situation, as he does not answere to his family.
For me, offer me a good paying job that will provide more for my family… and I will gladly risk my safety to do more for my wife and children.
Anyone wish to offer me a great job, I promise I will leave my gun at home if that is what you desire!
My job would probably fire me in a heart beat if I showed up with a gun at work. No point in doing that. I just hope work picks up so I don’t have to worry about being one of the unemployed.
Larry is of course right you have to think of your family first!!!
Yeah, especially if you have mouths to feed. You’re responsible enough to carry a gun, but you can’t suck up a bad policy for a while IOT find a new gig and ensure that your family’s needs are met, all because you’re feeling butt-hurt right now? You do that, you’re not a mensch. If you’re single/unattached, with no kids, whole other ball game; you only have yourself to potentially starve.
As for myself, suffice to say that I’ve lost track of the number of corporate policies that I ignore for the sake of realistic safety, common sense, expediency or the fact that I know that the folks who I work for are merely the current letterhead on my paycheck. This program changes hands, I’m relatively certain that I’ll be working for some other bunch of empty suits with equally stupid policies that I’ll blithely ignore with equal enthusiasm…
I’ve never worked anywhere that allowed concealed carry. But then I’ve pretty much worked only for medium to large corporations in manufacturing plants. Having a gun on company property would be grounds for instant termination. But knives are usually OK within reason because they are a useful tool in a manufacturing environment. Most of the parking lots were restricted too, since they were on company property, but I know a lot of people who bent that rule and I can’t remember anyone that was caught or punished.
Interestingly, two of the major corporations I’ve worked for had employee shootings in at least one of their plants - not where I was or when I was there, but it still happened. After such incidents, interlocked turnstiles with card readers were installed to prevent non-employees and ex-employees from entering without authorization. But a current employee could go nuts and there’s not much you can do to prevent it. The guards aren’t paid enough to take a bullet either. Their job is to call 9/11 and make sure they don’t get shot.
So the answer is NO, I would never refuse work because of an anti-CCW policy. I’m not likely to ever work somewhere where it’s even allowed at all.
I am brand new here and have yet to properly introduce myself to the forum, so excuse me while I chime in, because I just couldn’t help myself.
Brian, offended? What do Wake.Joe’s actions have to do with your situation? Had he kept his job, would YOU be any better off? I am at a total loss for understanding why you’d have anger directly towards him in this situation. And to stoop to name-calling?
Good luck with anyone on here trying to help you find a job after exhibiting that kind of erratic, psychotic behavior.
Let’s all cool down. I’ve been out of work for 3 months. Luckily, I have 4 months of severance and was allowed to prepay a years worth of medical benefits at the regular employee premium. Otherwise, things would be really tight - and they will be if I don’t find a job soon.
After eight months with no luck, I’m sure Brian is very frustrated and stressed about the future. In this society, a man’s ability to earn and provide is the primary measure of his value. More women leave their men for not being able to provide than any other reason. I’m sure the idea that someone would give up a job for what in his mind is a trivial reason is incomprehensible given his current state of mind.
That doesn’t excuse what he said, but let’s all give him a little latitude given his situation. There’s a lot of Brian’s out there now, and it’s still getting worse.
I’ve handed out two infractions, and it’s pretty obvious why they were handed out. There are a lot of internet forums and some allow this sort of discourse.
We do not, and will not tolerate direct personal attacks or responses to personal attacks with an escalated attack.
Standing by your principles is fine. I just hope you weren’t drawing on unemployment, as that would probably offend someones principles as well. I can’t carry at work, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to take what amounts to a “hand out” unemployment check if I’m able bodied and HAD a job. There are people that are in dire straights, unemployed not by choice, but because of a bad economy, and you’re letting go of a good paying job because you can’t have your cake and eat it too? Stand up for your rights, speak your mind, but if you’re going to do it, please make sure you aren’t doing it on the tax payers unemployment dollar.
Back to the original question, then…I work for a major oil company that, as most do, forbids CCW. When it comes to providing for my family, I cannot afford to stand by 100% of my principles 100% of the time.
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