My buddy has had a Barrett M468 in his safe for over a year without trying it out. He claims that it is a highly collectible rifle and that he will never shoot it. He will just keep it intact and pass it on to his kids when he dies. I’ve tried everything to change his mind and let me try it out at the range. Is this rifle really that hard to find and highly collectible??? I need help in trying to convince him to take it out to the range and give it some hell. Thanks everyone.
He should sell it! Cash in while 6.8 ammo is still in production! 
I have the opposite thoughts…Use it…I have used mine with .63 to 1.2 MOA based on the ammo. Found several units for sale. Collectible? nah…just an AR. MK11 Mod 0 or XM110, thats a collectible piece…
6.8 ammo is going out of production?? My buddy is gonna flip! I imagine Barrett will continue to make it?
Ummm, he’s joking with you. 6.8mm is alive and well among hobbyists.
:rolleyes:
The Barrett M468 is an outstanding AR, minus the ARMS SIR System.
It’s a shame that some of you guys don’t show more support for the 6.8SPC since it is a hell of a lot better than any 5.56. It’s comments and attitudes like that that will keep the 6.8SPC away from our soldiers who really could use it and should be using if it wasn’t for all of the political bullshit. And ignorant comments on internet boards don’t help.
oohhhhhhhh… so there are a lot of 6.8 haters around here… Now I get it. I’m somewhat ignorant i’m a total newbie. Thanks for the explanation 120mm.
I don’t get your venom. I think the 6.8 SPC is interesting. I just don’t think it is worth overhauling our entire ammunition supply system just yet.
Perhaps if you could roll it out at the same time as a replacement for M249, it might be do-able logistically. But it’s not political “bullshit” that keeps it out of the field. The current US system needs an additional caliber like I need an additional hole in my head. Under the current system, long-range killing is done by the crew-serveds and the close-range killing (which the 5.56 is very good at, btw) is done with the carbine/rifle.
Of course, to the on-line fantasy hobbyist, or armchair HALO player, the 6.8 is the shiznit. Of course, thinking that you can just do the “I dream of Jeanie” head nod to change primary rifle calibers during time of war is pretty ignorant, too.
Considering my post wasn’t directed at you, I guess I’ll respond to your stupid comments anyway. Nobody said, lets stop everything that we are doing and replace the 5.56 with the 6.8SPC right now. Last time I checked the Military is already looking into a new weapon system and so why not change everything once that happens, whether it is 1, 2, 3 or 10 years from now. The M4 isn’t going to be around forever.
The 6.8SPC was designed to be an effective round from 0-500 meters, just like the 5.56, except that the 6.8SPC does it much better. Now, I don’t know who you are or what you do, but I would prefer the 6.8SPC over the 5.56 any day and that is after doing a lot of research on it.
By the way, I’m supposed to be getting Halo3 today so I’ll let you know how it is :rolleyes: .
And if it isn’t about POLITICS, then the Military must have changed sine I got out, because when I was in, everything was about POLITICS. I’m glad it has changed for the better then.:rolleyes:
Any moment now an industry insider will come along and tell us that the 6.8SPC as a military cartridge is dead. Big Army has a butt load of 5.56. If the SOF community use 5.56, they can get it out of the Big Army budget. If they use 6.8, they have to come up with the money for it out of their smaller budget. 6.8 is probably a “better” cartridge, but if it sticks around, it’ll be in the civi market, not on the .mil side.
I’ve seen four Barrett M468s for sale locally, which leads me to believe that they are not terribly rare or hard-to-find, since nothing rare or hard-to-find is ever available around here. 
I can’t say I’m an expert on these things, but I can’t really imagine it will ever be worth much more than the initial price. More, yes, if in unfired condition ten years from now. I just don’t see it being worth many thousands of dollars someday. Remind your friend that it isn’t just being rare that makes something valuable, it has to be desirable to the collector. You could have the one and only existing example of something on the planet, but if nobody wants it it ain’t worth shit. I just don’t think that the name Barrett has the same “sex appeal” to collectors as something like Knight’s does. People will pay crazy money for KAC stuff. Is it worth it? That’s really beside the point. They want it and they’re willing to pay what it takes to get it. That’s how collecting usually works. I just don’t see the M468 ever being a hot item. It’ll almost certainly appreciate in value, but I don’t think anyone will be paying college tuitions or buying a car with the proceeds if they decide to sell it some day.
Derek
IMO if you are looking for collectible/high return buy lowers marked multi cal. in AR 15 &10 . Bolt gun receivers and any other semi auto receivers. If / when next crimes bill hits as has been published thus far prices will mimic full auto prices. You can retire from the sales. If not you can regain initial cost + .
Here is my 2 cents worth. The 6.8 is a great round thats enough said about that. It will be a long time before the DOD will use this round because of NATO. Since Vietnam its been 5.56 against 7.62. We nato use the 5.56 and them every body else uses 7.62. If we change our round then all of NATO has to change also.
So in all of your research this is what you came up with. The 6.8 was designed to do the same thing as the 5.56 but better.
If someone who owns a Weapons manufacturing Company tells us he did a lot of research. Most people can get an idea of the type of research he did. Be it from past experience or what he has available to do this research. Ranges, Weapons, people and of course money. Even his success tells us a lot.
Then someone like you who doesn’t even fill in their profile. Informs us he did a lot of research. This tells me that you read a lot. But thank you for your ignorant contribution. We are all better men today because you educated us to the fact that 6.8 do’s it better. Grow up and calmly stop being an ASS HAT.
When I sat on a Board (A real Board where you see real people) exchanging notes with other researchers. About the 6.8. I would of been thrown out of the room if I would of started my presentation with “It’s do’s it better”
I don’t even know why I am wasting my time and answering you especially when you start calling people ASS HATs because they didn’t spill their guts and tell you everything you wanted to hear.
Sorry, I didn’tt have the time to sit here this morning and write exactly what kind of research I did. I actually worked 26 straight hours. And I don’t update my profile because I don’t want to. And what is the ASS HAT comment for?
This is the kind of research I did:
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I talked to some SF guys that I met at work who have actually used the 6.8SPC out in Afghanistan. That is what initially got me interested.
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Then I spoke with DocGKR and he provided me with tons of useful information. Don’t ask what info he gave me because I can’t give it out. If you are Military or LE contact him yourself and he will provide you with the info I got.
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I have been testing the crap out of every bullet and ammo that is available. Just got to www.68forums.com and see for yourself.
And the main reason I got the 6.8SPC was to do my own evaluation and get my department to go to the 6.8SPC in the near future.
So, Mr. ASS HAT, does that satisfy you any?
Paul,
Don’t waste your time. Your credentials speak for itself.
Gary
You had the time to talk to a couple of people, see what the 6.8 do's when it hits Gelitan and buy a Gun in the hopes your Dept will follow your lead.
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I am SF and I used 6.8. Oh I was in Afghanistan too. I didn’t shoot 6.8 there. We didn’t have it.
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I am very well acquainted with the Gelitan test Data. I have seen this Top Secret Data you can’t release. The Data compiled by this USNR officer. Don’t ask, just Google. I kind of question anyone who recommends carrying three different types of Ammo on your vest in Combat is conceivable. Especially someone with absolutely no tactical experience. We never were much interested in what happens when our Bullets hit Jello. Having the Ammo and skills to hit the Jello every time always interest us.
I have seen and been involved in it’s testing from the days I worked at SOTIC up to my last couple of years working at SFAUC where I retired. Yes it do’s things better then 5.56. Except it’s not 5.56 and never will replace it. -
You and everyone else has tested the crap out of it. Never saw anyone buy their own Gun to perform private testing thou. Especially when they make it very clear they already know it’s better then 5.56. We all know it’s more stable, consistent velocity for longer distances, This velocity results in a flatter trajectory, thus making it easier for the shooter to hit what he is aiming at…etc.
“It’s about politics” has become a throw-down phrase for the losers of various technical trials since the beginning of time. The bottom line is not what is technically more efficient. It’s what is possible under the current conditions.
I stand by what I said before. Those folks pushing “gimmick” solutions, like gas piston guns and new calibers need to a) fit them within an acceptable (to the Army) system and b) find a cost-effective way to completely replace the current ammo supply pipeline, knowing that a significant part of the fighting force will need to instantly change over. And the old method of phase-transitioning the Guard and Reserves is no longer feasible, because they are also front-line troops. Plus, you need to c) find a new squad automatic weapon as well (not a big loss, in my book).
That doesn’t change the fact that the 5.56mm cartridge is a satisfactory cartridge for engaging targets where 99% of all fighting is done, which is in the 200 yards or closer ranges. And THAT is the “political” problem the 6.8SPC faces.:rolleyes:
I know you like the cartridge. I like it too. For the civilian hobbyist, it turns the AR-platform into a “one gun does all” platform. I’m a member on your web-site, and am probably going to go 6.8 SPC-only once I return to the states. (I’m currently in “gun-friendly” Germany.)
Oh, in my civilian life, I write training scenarios for the CTC in Hohenfels, and as an Army Reservist I currently do Logistics, used to be a CAV guy.
Oh boy, another “my SF buddy says…”
He lied to you.
The Group that drove the 6.8 train (mine…) had already stopped their rotations to Afghanistan before the 6.8 was tested. It never went to Iraq.
As for the Barrett, why would you pay $2700 for a Stag with an ARMS rail? If I wanted a 6.8 I’d go with a Noveske or LMT MRP.
You lost me. Where did I say anything about Iraq?