I consider personal responsibility to be a cornerstone of our country. I’m not doing anyone any good by condoning or being an accessory after the fact to a crime. I would tell the person in question that their only choice is to turn themselves in and I’d help them do just that. If they refuse, they’re free to leave my presence, but I’m calling them in regardless. I’ll not be guilted into doing the wrong thing by someone who’s done a wrong.
However, I believe there are some laws that violate our Constitution. A perfect example would be some of the draconian anti-gun laws in terrible states like New York & New Jersey, just to name a couple. I wouldn’t lift a finger to aid enforcement of these unconstitutional laws. As a matter of fact, if I were on a jury in such a case, I’d be the holdout for jury nullification. That said, I’m not going to allow myself to be placed in the position of a co-conspirator in such a case either. I don’t associate with people who commit crimes. That’s just how I roll.
my brother is a prosecutor so maybe its his knowledge of what happens
running never turns out good if you run it makes you look bad and will just push you further down the wrong path ?
getting caught lying for that person ? tough you could also get in trouble ? chances are won’t but if something comes up again don’t expect it to go so easy
not paying taxes is not a crime ? its just a delay so that can be fixed but you have to fix it when approached
machine gun under his bed in my house ? that gun is gone I don’t want to get in trouble ? all these scenarios like glocktogo said if its something I think is not constitutional like say OK my older kid does not have health care one day refuses to sign up for obama care ! that is OK
traffic ticket ? pay up that kinda thing
now the one thing and this is why I don’t post what I have what I do etc… is never every go posting on forums about anything or asking questions ever !!! no matter what lawyer up and shut up
as he says they will find it and if they find this post in the future asking should I hide my family and it happens and they get ahold of it if its a big enough case again won’t play well
he said its funny how many people want to talk about there crime ? but like he says criminals that are caught are stupid that is why they get caught !
the ones who are caught for a first offense are only the first time they are caught not the first time they did a crime ?
he might have a real view of criminals though since he deals with them
Being as how $10k ain’t even close enough to stick it out in Mexico for 10 years they are getting a lawyer and surrendering to the authorities. There simply isn’t any alternative.
They have 0% chance of successfully hiding out with me and any attempt to do so will only bring additional charges to them and myself. The only instance where I’d consider anything other than that is if they are actually innocent and the evidence strongly suggests otherwise.
its kinda funny I see a family trend
you have lots of relatives always getting arrested ?
robbing a bank OK sorry that is not a good person sorry yes they are a scumbag ? and not going in or talking to a lawyers also makes them really really stupid !
so you have a really stupid bad skumbag relative like the other ones on there way to getting arrested all the time
just the way I see it for sure
its just to funny saw a easy picking ? I want candy I buy it don’t go out on halloween and look for a really easy picking ?
First of all, that is bullshit. You don’t have a “lapse of judgement” and assault someone and steal money. I would turn them in unless there were some serious extenuating circumstances (someone has kidnapped their child and has threatened to kill their child if they go to the police, and wants $10K TODAY! I can totally understand how someone might do something nut-up stupid if that happened, and since they didn’t harm anyone physically, and no irreparable damage was done, I would contact MY lawyer for advise immediately. I would do as told.)
Second of all, this situation nearly happened to someone I know. Here’s the story…
A kid growing up had ADD. He had a severe temper, and more than once the police were called on him as a child for doing things like not thinking. An example was him shooting cans from the roof with his BB gun, someone saw him and reported him as “man with gun”, and police came and almost shot him. He was a very young child, as I recall, although I was a young child, too, so my memory may be fuzzy. This was about 2 decades ago.
Then in school, he had serious frustration and anger issues. He would slam a desk down, or whatever, scream, etc. He never attacked anyone, but people were sensibly worried about it. The police were involved often, although no real charges were filed, and no force was used by either him or the police.
The police began to dislike him. By now he was a late teens/early 20’s something. Everyone told him to move, because they were beginning to pick on him.
Nearing the culmination of this story, they pulled him over for speeding. He was calm and non-threatening, but did try to get out of his vehicle while the officer was present talking to him. The way I understand it (and there are 2 sides to a story…) he was coming out of the vehicle without malice or angry, for whatever reason (get something like a wallet from his pocket, I don’t know). Anyway, the officer slammed him in his door, crushing his leg between the truck and the door. This threw him into a rage and he attacked the officer. 5 officers and 3 cans of mace later, he was chilling in the back of a cruiser on the way to jail.
At this point, everyone BEGGED him to leave. The police in that town were known to…take care of people. We were all worried about his safety.
Then one night it happened. His truck with him in it for whatever reason were seen at wal-mart. The police knew he lived outside of the city limits, and that he would soon be headed home. A bogus reason to investigate was made “Suspicious vehicle in parkinglot” was the term used. A Mazda B2200 pick-up parked at Wal-Mart…in Texas. For less than an hour, later at night (He worked late, stopped at Wal-Mart). Suspicious? HAH! (He did not have substance abuse issues, nor was he ever charged with any, if you’re thinking drugs…).
Anyway, the game was afoot. They waited until he left and a cruiser began tailing him. They left the city limits. Came to a dark stretch of road that they knew was on his way home, and at the furthest points from town/his house on this isolated dark stretch, they hit the lights. Time to disappear this kid. Well, he had other ideas. His little B2200 wasn’t outrunning anything more than a Moped, so he stopped and waited until the officer got out of his vehicle. He then floored it in reverse to take out the radiator, and sped off. Luckily, he got away. He was charged with attempted murder of a police officer, initially. APB’s went out, it was a huge man-hunt.
He was scared they were going to shoot him and be done of him for good, so he did the least violent thing he could think to do to get away.*
This guy? I don’t honestly know what I would do if I were his parents. What they did was call for him to turn himself in in a very public area where he could not be shot on sight. He did, and it worked. Many many many thousands of dollars later, he was in jail for 5-7 years, and I believe he is out now on good behavior.
THAT is a true story, obviously from only 1 point of view, but it really makes you think.
*How do I know? Because he had a pistol under the seat of his truck, as recovered when the vehicle was impounded. He could have tried a lot harder if murder was on his mind. He knew what was going on, and he just wanted OUT. He didn’t want to kill any police, he wanted to buy some crap at Wal-Mart and go home, and they wanted him done for, or at the least taught a lesson.
So what I’m saying is, sometimes circumstances get woven in such a way that the lines between good and bad, law and lawlessness, are very blurry indeed. Then, it becomes a horrible mess with lawyers, any way you slice it.
