I recently just purchased my first AR15. I Grabbed a HIgh Standard M4 Carbine after listening to my local gun guys pitch. I have bought many guns from him and had been contemplating an AR. Just in the last 3 months I have bought three from him alone. The price of the gun and the sight (eotech 512 A65) was $1000 plus tax. I felt comfortable with the deal but knew nothing about what to look for at all. Well since then I have managed to run around 600 rounds through with no issues at all which I feel Is a low round count. So in short guys now after reading all of this I see a couple of things I should of made sure such a 1/7 barrel, chrome lined and so on. So how ad of a decision did I make as there is little feedback on what I purchased. Thanks
Never heard of high standard making an ar. Now some of there .22 pistols were amazing shooters!
Never heard of a High Standard M4 either, googled and low and behold …but 600 rds and no problems thus far…good for you! Shoot, train, and Enjoy your first M4carbine.
Horrible choice, now cross your heart 3 times turn around twice and slap the closest person to you… Kidding BTW, I’m sure it is fine
Better question is, does it do what you want it to do? Are you happy with your choice? And finally what do you invision this rifle to do for you? Just plinking on the range? Shoot on and enjoy. Run drills for time? Shoot on and enjoy. Gun that may save you or another life? Shoot on and enjoy for now, but might consider getting something a bit more ready for rougher use down the line. Colt, DD, LMT, Noveske. Wont necessarily have to, just something to consider.
so the gun was less than 600 bucks?
what do you intend to do with it? I’m not the guy who tells you if it isn’t Colt (or other similar) it isn’t shit but you do need to understand everything is built to a purpose and a price point.
if it’s for plinkin and shooting paper targets and maybe bustin a coyote now and then, then you didn’t do bad. in fact, with the Eotech, I’d say you got a pretty good deal.
but there’s a reason you see the same guns recommended here over and over and if you intend to use this gun in a “serious” fashion, whether it’s for targets that shoot back, or even a high round count “game” gun, then you have chosen a gun that will probably not be as reliable or durable as the higher priced spread.
I don’t know a thing about High Standard but the critical things you look for are the chamber - .223 or 5.56. this has an effect on the type of ammo you can shoot safely. next is barrel twist. a 1-9 means you will be limited to shorter/lighter weigh projectiles (45-62gr).
next are the usual things like proper staking on gas key and receiver extension (buffer tube). next is buffer weight (H is generally recommended), 5-coil spring and black insert on the extractor, and solid construction techniques. these go directly to the reliability of the firearms in general.
next is RE diameter (milspec vs. commercial) and barrel steel. 4150 is considered the good stuff and this goes to durability but depending on your use, you may never notice the difference between this and any other type.
I have several guns that are not serious use guns. and some even shoot .223 ammunition. some are for hunting and some are for my kids to burn cheap steel case ammo. but the thing to remember is not to confuse one with the other even though can they appear similar…
It wasn’t an ideal choice by any means, but hopefully the optic was new and the gun serves you well for now as you build a base of knowledge.
Have you been shooting .223 or 5.56? If you have 600 rounds of decent 5.56 through it you’re off to a good start, but some upgrades could still be considered.
Also, do you have a link to this particular model anywhere?
You have really poor future-time orientation.
I don’t know why the heck people go and buy something, and then go and ask others about it. It’s ass backwards.
Please don’t vote.
Considering that you paid $500-$600 for one (discounting for optic) and have had 600 flawless rounds, I would say it’s a fair deal.
You can’t get Colt or Noveske for what you paid and there is no absolute guarantee that you won’t get a lemon, even from well known name brand.
I would be curious in knowing how HS AR15 compares when you get higher quality name brand AR down the line.
Don’t let your time here turn you into a dick like many others before have.
Get a Colt BCG, and you should be okay for now.
Yeah, this…at least…
I wouldn’t carry a High Standard AR if you gave it to me, but, I wouldn’t carry an Eotech if you gave me on either…
If you intend to use that rifle in a home defense role, ditch it, and buy a better quality rifle. If you are simply using it as a range toy, rock on…
As everyone said, it is not if you enjoy it and know its limitations, and what its use is.
Many people, including myself for a time, are happy with S&W M&P’s whilst many people say they are horrible rifles and you should go buy a Colt or some other brand.
Have fun with your choice!
I don’t know where the hell you read that, but…
It was a horrible choice. As I rather clearly stated, I wouldn’t carry it if it was free…
However, I’m simply sick of trying to explain to people why they made a bad choice, when reading for fifteen minutes on this site should give you all the information you need…
So, like I said in my previous post, if this carbine is simply going to be a range toy (yes, that was sarcasm) then rock on (again, sarcasm.)
Well sorry, what I meant is that generally most people replying are saying it was not a good choice as in quality, but as you say, as a “range toy” it should be fine. That being said, he should know his gun is just for fun, a “range toy,” hence my saying he should know its limitations.
Shoot till failure. Now you know…and knowing is half the battle.
Case closed.
HSA AR’s are crap and I personally am in the same opinion as Delta Sierra. There have been a few threads on here about them. Looking at their specs there is nothing that jumps out and says “buy me”.
If you feel comfortable with it then rock on. If you want a plinker get a S&W M&P15-22.
Pleased to meet you.
I would say, in order to define if it was a bad choice, you would need to define what the choice was about. In the end, you get what you pay for, and it sounds like that is what you got. I rifle that is functioning, but one you may or may not be able to trust your life with. I would say shoot the crap out of it and learn the platform.
I got it to shoot at the Range and ranch with my wife and the kids. That’s it that’s all. However I would of done a few things different if I had known about this forum and a ton of reading since. it was an impulsive buy something that I rarely if ever do. I like your advice and appreciate it.