How bad is RRA?

Out of the bottom tier AR makers how bad is RRA? I ask this because I have always wanted a Knight Armament SR-47., and I just saw where RRA is bringing out their version of it. It will be called the LAR-47 and it uses AK magazines.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/01/foghorn/new-from-rock-river-arms-lar-47-ar-15-in-7-62x39-that-takes-ak-mags/

Not trying to start a fight about the quality of RRA, just wondering if this would be a good starting point for a good 7.62x39mm AR15 that uses a correct magazine for feeding this round.

Before I found this site, I bought a RRA 16” carbine. I would never say RRA is anywhere near as good as a BCM, DD, Colt, Noveske, LMT, and my BCM is my go to gun, but I’ve put over 5,000 rounds through my RRA with only 1 ammo related malfunction (crappy ammo). It’s been through multiple classes in multiple weather conditions and has always run great.

Are RRAs tier 1? Definitely not. Would I buy another one? Not with so many better options to choose from. Would I trust my life to mine? Based on it’s track record so far, Yes.

That is only 1 sample size, but I hope it helps a little.

ETA: And I have no experience with their 7.62x39 model. Sorry

Since their standard AR’s are mediocre. Why would anyone think that making an AR which is much more difficult in this set up would be good?

I’d stay away from it. And if I wanted 762x39 I would get an AK.

I’m not going to start a hot argument or invite calumnies by stating that RR is an excellent AR. I have one and have seen several others and have seen no reason to question their quality, durability or serviceability. 458 SOCOM is nearing the the top of my “to get” list and it will be a RR.

Didn’t U.S. Customs and Border Protection adopt the Rock River as it’s standard issue carbine a few years back? I know they had something to that effect in many of their ads for a long time.

I was looking at purchasing one back then. This was back when Bushmaster, Colt, Armalite and Olympic were the big names in AR’s. Most of the companies like BCM were not around yet.

I wonder how they got that order.

Nope, that was the DEA. CBP/USBP issues Colt M4A1 carbines.

I hear a lot of people on here say they are shitty, but I have not heard a single person say why.

Seems like there is a lot of regurgitation going on.

Huh?

Might want to do a little more research before you do any more regurgitation of your own…

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=82739&highlight=updated+m4+chart

Not exactly “shitty,” but for the same money there are much better options these days.

Why did you just reply with a link that has absolutely nothing on RRA?

Did you even bother to read it before you posted it?

My sample of one sucked because every range session, after firing a few rounds, the bolt would lock into the chamber, would not unlock, and I would be done shooting for the day.

Yeah, I know what I posted, and there is good reason for posting it.

They make such a low-end product that they didn’t respond to Rob when he was putting the chart together. That should speak volumes, if anyone was listening.

The fact is, if you want information, there is a search button - it works quite well - that you can use to gather information as to the more technical aspects of why Rock River isn’t worth buying.

Now, here are a couple of homework assignments…

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=65729

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7376

God forbid Rock River Arms didn’t respond to the all-knowing rob_s.

According to your logic, the quality of a product is dependent on a company’s response to rob_s.

Absolutely ridiculous.

And I have used the search button and came up with nothing about why

If you can’t back up your info, why should I believe you aren’t doing anything more than regurgitating someone else’s opinion?

I have an RRA 9mm SBR. It is mediocre to be honest. Hold the 8" RRA 9mm next to an 8" Noveske 300BLK platform and you can quickly tell the difference just in the quality of parts and exactness of fitting.

RRA works but there are much better guns out there for the same price.

This may not speak for their entire weapon set ups, but I gave them a chance when I bought their NM 2 stage trigger. The trigger completely shit the bed in under 1000 rounds. The first stage disappeared and then it began to double fire not too long after. If you do some searching you will find that many other people had similar results. I for one will not be giving my money to a company that is content with puttung out a sub par product. There may be RRA rifles out there that work fine, but there are certainly better options. If your going to get a rifle for self-defense do you really want to rely on a company that cuts corners?

IMO rra is the most over hyped brand out there.
Right after the awb expired in 04 I went out and bought my first ar which was a rra. At the time colts were non existant and all you could find were bushy and rra. I chose rra because the “fit and finish” were better and the recievers were tighter… Basically back before I knew any better. In the subsequent year after taking some classes I experienced a loose gas key, a loose castle nut and the associated failures, which while easily remedied, were a pita to have to deal with. Needless to say in 08 I traded it off towards a s&w m&p15 and never looked back.
I think most hit the nail on the head saying for the money there are much better choices out there.

Until the ACR matures, the AR will be my platform of choice. It would be nice to have a reliable AR that shoots 7.62x39 and takes AK mags; KAC would make a quick buck off me by offering the SR-47 (and PDW) for sale. Disappointing that RRA chose a mag release paddle/lever instead of a release button.

-B

Yeah that’s right it was the DEA. I wonder how that worked out for them.

To the best of my knowledge they went back to Colt although they still have them in service.

I think this is what it really boils down to. Why in the name of God would you not pay an extra $50 or $100 (Or the SAME price in some cases) for a rifle that is built better.

To me it is like a Ford Taurus costing $500 less than an M3…and people defend the Taurus for being “just as good”