Holy #@%* - Possible M-14s for sale?

My bet would be modify their Garand receivers, clone the rollmarks and torch-cut the originals. Kind of like the treatment a Transferable MG gets for “repair” when its receiver is damaged or worn beyond further use.

That was my frist guess but, that guy in the video said the start to finish time on this is like 15 minutes. So now I’m confused because the once a machinegun rule made me believe “New Reciever”, now I dont know.

Seems clear to me they are the whole M14s, permanently modified to be semi-auto only. “Special authorization” wouldn’t be needed if they were using commercial or Garand receivers. Not sure where all this other conjecture is coming from.

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Not many transferable samples around.

Milling the FA nub off of the receiver would be one way to do it, but ya gotta deal with that low-side op-rod dismount notch….in a commercial M14 clone the notch for the op-rod to be taken off is on the top of the op-rod track in the receiver. That lower one would have to be welded up and formed/shaped so it didn’t look like shit. The selector arm sits right up to the receiver and holds the op-rod in place by blocking the low slot on a real M14, but with the FA nub removed there is nothing for the selector arm to attach to.

Hey, it is an internet forum - conjecture and speculation are the norm :slight_smile:

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That is an interesting point, and those of us with semi-auto M-14 clones probably would not have thought about it, as most of us have probably never stripped down an actual M-14 or examined one closely.

But a friend of mine has a full-auto M1-A and I remember seeing the notch you are talking about. I suppose CMP has some kind of work around for this - guess we will just have to wait and see.

I want to like M1a’s more but a late-model Mini-14/30 Tactical 16 in is so much simpler, handier, and less expensive.

Available in 5.56, .300 blk (cycles supers & subs), and 7.62x39 if you’re into that.

A new Mini-14 Tactical 16 in is just as precise and reliable as a new basic-style M1a. And there are folding stocks for it, too.

I get it, though, these M14’s are about the history. And I’m interested for under $3k. But there’s no way they’ll be that price.

I fear you may be right, but until we get more info I will hope you are wrong.

As Averageman pointed out, a lot depends on how many guns they get. If it is just a few thousand then they can demand more. On the other hand, if they get tens of thousands, they might price them more reasonably to move some out and bring in some cash.

Condition will matter too I imagine. If they have some that were recently dragged through the ‘Stan and beat up those might be graded lower. On the other hand, one that was refurnished after Vietnam and then stored in cosmoline might be worth more as being ready to issue.

Some manufacturers are probably scarcer than others and that could affect the price too. I did some quick Google-Fu to try to find production figures by maker, but nothing popped up in the first couple of hits. That info must be posted somewhere online though. People might pay more for a Winchester, just because of the name.

We will just have to wait and see. I’m with you, 5K would probably be a bridge too far. 2K I would definitely consider.

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Honestly depending on price, I’m more intrested in a full parts kit than a 2500-3000 dollar rifle, I would just prefer to take it from there.

Like the Glock Gen V.

“rifles will be modified to be permanently and irreversibly semi-automatic rifles”

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/military-rifles---m1-garand/m14-h-r-308-flemming-reweld.cfm?gun_id=101588750

Over on M14Forum someone who is knowledgeable on the subject said CMP submitted four different ways to make it permanently semi-auto to ATF and all four were approved. So which it ends up being is anyone’s guess at this point.

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CMP submitted four different ways to make it permanently semi-auto to ATF and all four were approved.

CMP should just install the selector lock and then have buyers make a Pinky Swear that they would never remove the lock and install a selector switch. That would be easy.

And if anyone asks, just say that the rifle self-identifies as a semi-auto, and that we are not allowed to question its self-image.

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Here is a good vid on what’s going on. Like most no real set price so who knows. The history would be awesome but not @ $3+++ K,I guess we will find out shortly. More info on how to. Surplus M14s Announced by the CMP

Not a bad vid,guy is a real character,but he has numbers of each manufacture.

CMP Announces “Special Authorization” for Surplus M14: What Collectors Should be Thinking About

CMP Surplus USGI M14s Are Coming?! :united_states:

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OK, there has been loads of speculation online from all sorts of gun You-Tubers. But here is the info posted at the CMP page, straight from the CEO

2026 CMP National Match Report - Week 4

If you FF to the 4:50 mark, you can hear him say they expect 100,000 M-14s. Great Googly Moogly! Let’s get those things transferred before a hostile Democrat administration take over.

He also predicts a price of around 2K. This warms my heart.

Also, looks like the CMP will be getting some surplus shotguns as well.

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I saw that earlier in the week, I’m very happy at that price.

Tens of thousands of officially neutered, real-deal M-14’s hitting the market for us is gonna be awesome! Some of you guys don’t care for the platform, so be it, to each his own, etc. [more for me!]

I, for one, will seek to buy my two that are supposedly going to be allowed. While the M1 Garand CMP market had “grading” levels attached, I’m wondering how the M14 program will be handled. My understanding of the Anniston Depot procedure for being turned in to them is a complete going-over, miking critical parts, refinishing if beat to hell, even re-barreling if necessary. That makes me think maybe the “grades” will be a little more uniform and vary less than the Garand and Carbine weapons.

In 2005 a buddy of mine, a retired SF SgtMaj, was asked to give an M14 class to some 101st Airborne guys deploying to Iraq. First group was Cav Scouts and the second was Artillery who weren’t taking their cannons with them. He asked if I wanted to go and I was like “Hell yeah!”. Got to see firsthand the rifles they had drawn from Anniston. These rifles were fvcking beautiful. They had all been arsenal refurbished around the early 80’s (it was engraved with an electro-pen below the woodline). That is where I learned about the disassembly/reassembly procedure for a real M14.

And I had to read the damned book. No, my Dad was a Armorer in the 101st and he was an opinionated Old Guy, but he Liked Old Scotch, Latin Women, Garands and M14’s.

If you wanted to fight ask him about a Lugar Pistol, every Officer PCS’ing from Berlin got a German Lugar, some got P-38’s but, there were thousands upon thousands of Pistol’s captured during the War. My Old Man had to maintain them all.

I suffered though listening to one video linked on CMP and M-14 much of what was he lacked any information. How and why I say that. I’ve been at CMP South 3-4 times in last 3 weeks. FYI: As of now nothing known yet on it. The store expansion is closed to public and you are directed to the Talladega range shop. The intentions of multiple visits was the M-14 information. Other was for another M-1, plus a 1917 and the field or rack grade 1911a1 at monthly sales there. I started to buy one and decided not as I would have to buy 2 for a completely matching one if not 3. I’m not as jaded as many are on how great the M14 or M1a are. But I would like to have one still. In fact the M1 Garand I purchased is 308. Dang I need to get to a range to fire it some.

The main takeaway is if you are wanting one keep up an CMP Website, that’s from everyone I spoke with from managers even several of them are waiting to get one at least also. They don’t have a timeline even.

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Thanks for the update.