Anyone have any info on whether the rumored factory 20 round mags for the P30/ VP9 are still going to come to fruition?
I’ve not heard any rumors about an OEM 20 round mag from HK. That being said, I’ve had great luck with the Taylor Freelance +5s. Unfortunately, after $35 for a P30 mag +$35 for an extension (spring included) you’re $70 into a 20 round mag.
Yea, I have a Taylor Freelance +5, a HK parts.net +5, and an XTech Tactical +5 and you’re right, it’s getting pricey. The rumors swirled around the time of the release of the VP9sk and Tactical models. The photos that were released all said “15/20 round mag” under the ‘other specifications’ section. Hopefully, they’ll show up at shot show.
Any idea when/if these will be available to us?
So what is your overall experience with the TF +5’s? I have been interested in picking up a few.
I have been waiting for these factory ones as well, but I thought we would see them by now.
The TF +5’s have worked flawlessly (one is mine, the other was borrowed from a friend). I’ve run them for about 2 years and I’ve ejected/dropped them on concrete and metal ‘diamond plate’ style floors - they still run like champs. Admittedly, I’m not abusing them like I would if they were cheaper, but I’m definitely going to purchase a few more if I can’t get OEMs. Remember to include the spring kit in your order for them, I didn’t because I was hurrying and had to go back and order it later. Some people claim they actually hold 21 rounds but I only load them to 20.
The HKparts +5s are solid as well.
Montrala, please tell me that doesn’t say 69 euro for an OEM.
I believe it says €69 and 19% tax is included. I think it’s a ‘proposed’ price.
I’ve only seen 1 “regular” gun shop (in Lisbon) during my travels around Europe over the last decade. I’ve also been in a very high-end shop (Merkel being the cheapest firearm in the place) in London. I’d like to find a better example just to see what they have.
HK has never been big on importing regular capacity mags - it’s not exactly easy to get real MP, UMP, and G36 mags.
It does. 69 euro including 19% VAT (sales tax). But price for 15rd magazine in Germany is 59 euro, so it is just 10 euro markup here. Much better than paying $40 for TF basepad plus spring alone (plus cost of 15rd mag).
Nifty.
I’ve got thousands of rounds through a couple different mags with TF base plates… they run great.
They’re finally here: https://us.hkwebshop.com/hkstorefront/hk/en/Handgun-Parts/Magazines/VP9-P30-20rd-Magazine/p/50239330
Default, much thanks for the heads up! Ordered one. Can’t wait to put it through it’s paces.
The plastic at the bottom is apparently just a sleeve, so it’s a full 20 round metal tube… which means I can now make ~170mm magazines, if I throw a +5 extension on these, assuming I can find the proper springs, which I suspect the Taylor Freelance +10 M&P springs will work for. 25 rounders for USPSA is definitely gonna be fun, and might even work as a reload on the war belt or for EDC.
Remember that this sleeve works as magazine insertion limiter. Without it you can over-insert magazine when doing slide lock changes. This can lead to bend ejector (if you are strong enough) as ejector will work as magazine stop.
BTW If you will dump original followers (and slide lock feature) you can try Grams STI/SV followers and springs (you must cut out slide lock tab in Grams follower to let it pass HK slide lock lever). This will give you +2/3 rounds (depending on some other minor factors).
If either of you end up going this route, please share the results/ how to.
Also, any new youtube vids coming, Montrala?
20% sales tax? **** my life. I couldn’t imagine paying a 20% mark-up on a relatively inexpensive item like these mags, let alone something like Kahles or S&B glass at $2-4k.
I’m afraid not sooner than spring next year. My financial situation in last years is difficult, to put it mildly. Thanks to my sponsors I have rifle, pistol, shotgun, scope and some ammo to use and can shoot at all (big kudos to them and some HKPro guys who supported me with cash donations to allow my come back to shooting) but still I can afford 3-4 matches a year tops.
23% in Poland. 25% in Sweden. Welcome to European Union of Socialist Republics.
Ordered some of these mags direct from HK. Here’s a couple quick pictures.
They are all steel body mags. Appears to be the same baseplate and follower as the normal 15 round mags. There is a plastic sleeve to prevent over inserting. They loaded up with 20 rounds without issue. I have not shot them yet.
Compared to the HKparts +5 they are a bit bigger but not too much.
I swapped out the factory follower and spring for the Grams set that came with my Taylor Freelance +5 extension. The mag will now hold 22 rounds but it feels like it’s about to burst. It will seat with a closed slide, but I think I’ll leave it at 21. I’m not sure when I’ll be able to get to the range to test function, but will report back when I do.